Would plan to delete at some point. Cathedral + 4 Gambrel houses + happiness bldgs => around 65 squares, provides 19120 coins/day at level 10. Thoughts? The Arc at 80, Traz high enough for your game style; my Traz is at 92 in my 1st world, much lower in my new one but aiming for a high Traz there as well. Im not sure that its really worth this size of building, but at least it will eventually pay for the space that it uses. On reviewing their benefits, it is clear that some ARE better than others. You are using an out of date browser. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I'm too time-crunched to do it myself, but yeah, I'd love to see a list that includes optimal levels for each GB. Once the building reaches level 1, it is built and starts to give out bonuses, but still can be upgraded with increasing bonuses to a maximum of level 10. ), which makes sense given that many were at least partially bought with diamonds, and/or require a LOT of investment to complete. This is can unlock nearly one city expansion per day, which is astounding! Forge points are the mot valuable asset in the game. TA from level 59-61 gives 1% ATK and DEF for both attacking and defending armies. No GB can supply you with attached units. +100% when maxed. Once the Great Building's requirements have been met and the foundation laid, it will be at level 0 and must be "leveled" to level 1 before granting benefits to the player. The only thing I hate about this is that it is the largest building in the game (hence really large footprint), but it's easily justified by it's bonuses. For the altruistic team players, it also allows getting level 0 GBs of other players into production faster, which will be more of a challenge over time. You can also enter less than 15 values. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It's not like that I should not have built Cape Canaveral; it's that this Great Building is best for venting out all your forge points when you have too many. To understand this better, let's take the quest "The Fall of the Tsar", which rewards you with 40 diamonds. The Castle del Monte is the greatest Great Building in the whole of Forge of Empires, and it is even better than the Alcatraz. Build this GB first. Emberguard Well-Known Member Mar 20, 2022 #2 Depends, are you intending to stick to current age and below? The author fails to understand the basic structure of the game. Assuming only 20 town houses (probably in LMA or later), a maxed St Marks will be boosting your income by 34,000 coins per day (and more in the Colonial era, or if you upgrade to better houses). To place the Great Building, you will first have to acquire the 9 separate blueprints and also the required goods of the building's age. I built the Cathedral of Aachen shortly after I reached the Progressive Era, and I actually felt like that this Great Building is a little bit overrated. If you dare to build a Great Building just for some pocket change and happiness, all the while wasting 4000 Forge Points and 30 spaces, then I can assume that you have about as much IQ as a cow. I suspect that the Statue cant really achieve that real value level, so its mostly a decorative / vanity addition to your city, and helpful to those who really enjoy the PvP battles, or want to use those battles to improve their overall game score. etc. This method is the 2nd least time-consuming. Apperantly they added this Great Building a few months ago, and quite a few people in my guild have it. I'd consider not building it at all tbh.. Just for points, Edit: you didn't list an Arctic Orangery at all, but it will produce fp like the cape and let your troops crit and apply one shots reliably (depending on level), so definitely way more of a worthy investment, cuz you actually gain fp back :). Notre Dame is moderately sized (46=24 squares), providing happiness and also supplies. What does this mean? 4 comments. GBs that give goods are v helpful. Early on Statue of Zeus to ten for all players. This would really be a valuable reference item. Coins Firstly once youve built a GB you wont want to delete it. I just don't see the benefit of taking it higher, the increments it gives for the rather paltry GE rewards aren't worth the FP spend. Also, the goods required to build it are mostly useless to me at this stage. Great Building List. Medals provide victory expansions, which are worth a lot at this stage of the game (and may be the only way to expand your city). Dskies: I came upon your analysis last month. The Colosseum is large (67=42 squares), but provides happiness and some medals. I thought it would be useful for some players if I collected some known formulas in one thread. Obviously, Alactraz is a must, as well if youre a fighter. 2 Building a Great Building 2.1 Blueprints 2.2 Goods 3 Leveling Great Buildings The compact size makes this more the reason to invest 2500 Forge Points into it. So think about it. World: International - Cirgard Server (~32,000 players, ~6,800 active) (Active Adjusted (AA) are All GBs ownership divided by 6800 (the amount of active players because you can't really compare the ownership of the Babel with the Arc when the two is 10+ ages apart), Guild: Knights of Serenity (Currently hovering in the top 1% on the server), GB's Built:Statue of Zeus (Level 10),Lighthouse of Alexandria (Level 10),Cathedral of Aachen (Level 11), By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. That is 1 in 4 shot. Castel del Monte: underwhelming (ok for PvP). It doesn't go outdated easily, but overall, it might not be a good idea to build it if you don't have a lot of space left, and do not prioritize this over the Alcatraz or the Castel. It might not appeal as much to aggressive PvP players though. With all those supplies, youll be able to upgrade your houses fairly easily. and attack - The possibility to earn up to 3 copies of that 2x3 building to earn an average of 102 fragments of the new and amazing main building every 10 days, with a total of 3 copies of that amazing building in a year if you use a level 91 Blue Galaxy on those 2x3 buildings. Plunder Repel Great Buildings are definitely better and more interesting than regular buildings. The other benefit of Notre Dame is to provide lots of happiness (3900 when maxed). FPs are the core to the game. So is the Deal Castle 267 times better than the Tower? Ah yes. This is basically a better LoA. For the guild treasury I run Arc/Atom/Obs 80, then add in two SoH Level 8's and a Royal Bathhouse to get over 2500 goods per day going into the treasury. But for what you are asking, stick to what TheCenterOfEnnui says first. Babel well yes and no. And THIS, is why happiness, coins and supplies-providing Great Buildings suck - the inflation of how many coins and supplies needed will eventually make them look like it's meant to be served as a part of a Happy Meal in McDonalds. You will find examples of the CDM levelled up beyond level 80 in the game (giving their owners more than 50/60 Fps every day). The Tower gives 6 goods at level one and upgrades itself as you move through the ages! St BASILS Bad the coin boost is useless once you get to high middle ages and beyond as you will have more gold than you can spend anyway. There are two flaws in this analysis. (Reality will be different of course, but it is a useful gauge/estimate). If you are a pure fighter, you MUST build it by the Colonial Age and upgrade it to Level 10. Coin Boost The Statue gives a unit attack/defence bonus when attacking. Much better to build a Zeus and CoA and level them up, less space and more useful attack/defence %. Mysterious Shards No queston these three buildings (Alcatraz, Dyna and Arc) WHEN USED PROPERLY change the game. However, the high level players are unlikely to level their HS higher than lvl 10 as there are other FP GBs that give you more bang for your buck. At the other end, Alcatraz won hands down, with CdM a distant second. Statue of Zeus: Mostly decorative (ok for PvP). First Strike An amount of medals every 24 hours. See the next section. I will not touch babel and colo. Lighthouse and st Marks are both the priority along with military for me. Great Buildings are special buildings inspired by world history which can be built to provide powerful benefits to the player. I think the ownership rate of the Space Needle speak for itself. Forge points are the most valuable resource in the game. Chance to double the resources plundered after successfully defeating a neighbors defense. As the levels go up, more points are required and the delay grows. Zeus, though it only gives one bonus, is a MUST for a fighter, as it gives 30% increase of fight power. Chance of getting random reward when winning battles (list of possible rewards detailed on the building's page). TOR-10. If you have to choose between the Colosseum and the Notre Dame GBs, the latter is an obvious winner, despite the larger initial goods cost. This can make up for the rapidly escalating cost of more levels. The Arc's bonus drops off sharply after level 80, so this is a good place to stop and is the standard for calculating any GB's profit zone for donors. Research-wise, you simply end up being held up by unlock costs of technologies. The gold is worthless, the attack % is vital if you fight. TA? Virgo Project: Wouldn't have built. A bit too much time and effort needed to make it useful IMHO. St Marks Basilica: Excellent (peaceful/traders). Guild Goods Maybe once it gets out of "auto" on levels 1-2 for 1.9 threads. Already its common to see people with more than 100 points attack/defense boost. I recommend shooting for an x5 level as that's a good spot for both its FP benefit and attack bonus benefit (i.e. Zeus level 75-77 costs 1192 forge points. Missile Launch TA from level 59-61 gives 1% ATK and DEF for both attacking and defending armies. Truce/Dynamic Tower (7.29%, AA: 36.4%), 29. Overall, build it unless you are hell-bent on fighting like FoETipps. Rock-bottom and I feel absolutely no regrets. 2.1 Average Results for Specific Levels 3 Special Goods 4 Contribution Rewards 5 Other Great Buildings Levels Random Rewards Every current age good Average Results for Specific Levels This table lists the average total Diplomatic Gifts after all tries from a harvest of the carrier are used up. Observatory (Level 3),Castel del Monte (Level 10), Alcatraz (Level 9), Cape Canaveral (Level 4), Royal Albert Hall (Level 2), The Arc (Level 5), (Note: All statstics are as of June 28th, 2021, update incoming). Let's take a look at the basis first: S Tier are the buildings that you MUST build, and build it at all costs. ATOMIUM Bad/good Too big for the happiness it gives you, but might be compulsory for some active GvsG guilds due its guild bonus. TOTALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bottom line: take it for the coin production, or if you are in an aggressive neighbourhood. Below I will also give some ideas of how to obtain other formulas when I cannot establish them myself. Its massive in fact. ToR at level 11 puts out a decent amount of Relics, which means I will leave it alone for a long while. Seed Vault Helping Hands Chance. DSkies (The Brethren on Fel Drangyr) dskies at gmail com, Ty dskies for your time I saved your post for reference. Most other GBs have a "golden level" between level 60 and 70. Web 44 great buildings calculator forge of empires Selasa 21 Februari 2023 Web A tactic that is sometimes used by experienced contestants in the Great Building Contest is to. 4. I hope InnoGames can make the Colosseum give out units instead of medals, or just give them an attack bonus, because until then, literally, and I repeat it: LITERALLY. (You will want to get the Cathedral up to at least level 6 though, before it will be paying more than the land cost). St. Mark's Basilica (15.0%, AA: 75.0%), 14. Tell me what GB can touch that. Thats the equivalent of 12.3 Churches, or 4.3 (LMA premium) Palaces, but in much less space of course. If you cant afford enough space in your city to have two large GBs, I still slightly prefer the Notre Dame or Hagia Sophia happiness GBs over the Colosseum, but if you get a full set of Colosseum blueprints first, then build it for sure. Its a bit expensive for what it does, but still worthwhile. If you want to be a good guildmate, build the Observatory and Atomium to give goods to your guild treasury. FLAT COINS? Contents 1 What makes Great Buildings special? A fully maxed Colosseum provides 4000 happiness and 32 medals per day (big increase in update 0.26). Saint Basil's Cathedral (10.2%, 51.1%), 16. For the altruistic team players, it also allows getting level 0 GBs of other players into production faster, which will be more of a challenge over time. The Fauenkirche is moderately sized (55=25 squares), providing happiness, and goods. I have to agree with Dskies about the Colosseum, I find it worthless for the space it wastes. The only high level players that have them are ones that are sentimental and like the look of it in their city. CATHEDRAL OF AACHEN Very good. To Wizzy, you make some good points. My thoughts and suggestions as well. It might look weak, but is by far the cheapest % military boost per FP. Probably not worth it if youre pushed for space. *The post does not include FE GBs. It becomes worthless. The (maxed) daily output of 19750 coins (much less than the pre 0.26 output) is weaker than that from St Marks (which is a larger GB), but much better than the Cathedral of Aachen (same size, but earlier age). The Critical hit bonus is also great. Alcatraz: level 3,6,or 9+. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. It takes me 4 days to get goods which I can in turn sell for 500 FPS. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. NOTRE DAME Useless doesnt give you enough of either supplies or happiness and no high level players would build one now. The daily income provided jumps significantly after level 7, and is rather nice when maxed (12640 coins since update 0.26), but does not improve further over time. Also, will you please explain how you go about buying/selling goods for forge points? The payback time is years. Dont build unless you have to. If you have the Arc, even at Level 10, you get 141 Forge Points and 3578 medals instead. For example, a Bronze age GB costs 150 bronze age goods, which cost 3000 cash and 3000 supplies to produce. It improves as you progress. It is more an issue of when to level up the wanted great Buildings to some level rather how high. Chance to receive a random reward after successfully completing a negotiation. Depending on the building, you will get the following: Advanced Tactics This Great Building is truly great, as it supports your guild AND yourself. Cyril: You asked for a linka link to what exactly. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Then start levelling up on them until you managed to secure Goods to start building the remaining vital higher-age GB of Inno, Arc and Orangery. An article worth referencing would have a base point rating which harnesses the 6 pillars of success into a basic formula. To level your Great Building, you need to contribute a specific amount of Forge Points to the building. GvG Support Pool I built the Statue of Zeus only when I got to the Colonial Age, which is wellslow, to say the least. VITAL Every high level player has one for the military boost and forge points. It is an amazingly pretty castle though. Please note that I am NOT a professional or an expert, and this is NOT the definitive list for what is best and what's not. The Castel is moderately sized (55=25 squares), providing an attack boost, and forge points. You must log in or register to reply here. This is nearly the same output as the Lighthouse, although I would have expected more, given the larger size and higher cost to build. The real bonus it gives is unattached units, which will guarenteed your success in the Guild Expeditions and the Guild Battlegrounds. This "Great Building" wastes you 42 squares, that's 4 entire expansions. Other than Arc 80 ..I've been using 60. Chance to double collect the first number of buildings collected. Youre going to fight. It does provide a fair amount of gold, but it needs a reno kit to move up in age. I am currently in the Colonial Age but I think your strategy would still help me out some. Cleary the author farms and must have been a poor player of the game. I wish Id used it that way. GAIA STATUE ok/good good happiness, not too bad medals. It takes a long time to start to worry about GBs over level ten. Arc 80 Cape ~70 Zeus/CoA/TA 59 CdM 65 HC/SC 58 BG 54. Any GB that can boost your Goods, Coins or Supplies production is necessary as well: The Lighthouse, St. Marks, RA Hall, Chateau, Frau, Dynamic Tower. You can put points into your Great Buildings as much and as often as you like. BUILD. Also, all current contributions to an unfinished level will be lost for the respective contributors. If you are going to do a review of GBs, you should at least know what you are talking about. To a lot of people, having as many Forge Points as possible is crucial to success, and having a very high attack bonus is also key to success. Note that this is purely subjective to your needs and desire to invest in your own GBs. Email me direct at dskies at gmail. Dump your Forge Points here if you have nothing else to do, but otherwise, it might not be a good idea to build the Galata Tower. https://en.wiki.forgeofempires.com/index.php?title=Great_Buildings. How do I correctly do fp threads as well. I am a relatively advanced player there is some variance depending on your playing style, but mathematically, the worst building in the game is clearly the coliseum. This boost doesn't apply on rewards consisting of Forge Points, blueprints, or military units. JavaScript is disabled. Level 60 is the fastest payback for it. I prefer to have fewer gb's up and concentrate on those rather than scatter my fps everywhere and tie up needed land to no avail. An amount of coins every 24 hours. 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