My records are pretty incomplete from years ago, but the reason I am asking for some help here is that I seem to recall that years ago I built this 202 rod (claimed by the 1951 Payne catalogue to be Fast DF action) only to find it to be pretty slow and deliberate; like, I am afraid, most 3-piece 8 footers I have built. 0.175 It is smooth and has enough power to cast just about any fly you would need to with that size rod. Measurements are on the UNVARNISHED sections: Ferrules 16 and 11  -  Super Z  -  with step down at ferrules as shown, Butt (inches)                 Mid (inches)                  Tip      55          0.203          0.102 30" = .172 Is this correct? This guide does not cover issues related to printing labels with the third party dymo labelwriter software. For a line weight lighter, the 98 is also bloody good. 7652 7ft. There is the George Maurer version, Dennis Higham's measured version in Hexrod and the Hexrod version. Bekijk … 50 - .219 (Stephen Dugmore). Can anyone give me the correct taper for the Payne Canadian Canoe. 65 - ferrule Anyone rate them? (John Channer), That should be .173 and .190. The 101 is the fluid taper throughout without any loss of feel. Or a Driggs River 5 wt. Cap and band reel seat over cork. David Ray's Taper Library. Bamboo Tips - Tips Area Rod Selection - Payne Tapers, < Home < Tips Area < Rod Selection < Payne Tapers. For sale here is a Payne Model 100H bamboo rod in excellent original condition.      Length (feet) 7.5 Met onze taperoller sluit, wikkelt of bundelt u uw verpakkingsmateriaal snel en eenvoudig en zorgt u ervoor dat uw pakketten veilig worden verzonden. For a heavier rod (7'6", 5 wt.) Granger 8642 and Dickerson 861711. 10" = .109     40  .176 I use them all regularly, but  Payne  the most. Kevin Little made a very well-received one, hopefully the voice of experience will chime in. The wraps are the Payne-typical brown silk tipped with gold. The rod is 7 1/2', 2pc. For some reason all of the 100Hs I have ever seen that were marked on the tag were from the late 1940s. stripper 77, winding check at 92 11/16" I’d recommend a Perfectionist 4  wt. by Catskill » 04/01/10 16:56, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. The balance never felt "right" to me before. (Gary Nicholson). I am looking for a Payne 98 taper and would like to hear from anyone who has a nice version as I gather there are quite a few. First ..What Rich said...4 models and the 7'6" never cataloged..the Payne paras are not really parabolic as we think of parabolic today. The requester would prefer that the taper was a Payne, but that is secondary to the quick action. I have made a few of these big Dickersons, and they seem to me to be just "brute force and ignorance", to use a hackneyed quote - pick 'em up and put 'em down again,  whereas the Gillum has a magnificent action. The Weiss rod has higher stress in the tip, while the Troutgetter rod has a more parabolic mid.     55  .218 A typical slope was 0.008 to I have a bit of a mystery. There were a number of Payne rods that never had model numbers assigned. Hal can give you better insight than I.  I  am looking forward to casting the 198L next to the 100 and adding in a Leonard 65L for comparison. Did they all miss the boat in not going convex? I think you would find that the only difference between our methods is that for empirical changes I use a computer instead of of charcoal on a rock. The dimensions Steve has provided for the Payne 201 appear to be beefed up version of the Payne 200, which would make sense. My friend Mike uses his with a 6. (George Bourke), If you want "crisp" action, IE a faster rod then either the 101 or the 7', 4wt .. 98.     35  .158 Description Particulars Available to you is a very difficult to source Payne Model 100 bamboo fly rod. You can't go wrong with either taper. DYMO LetraTag 100H Plus Handheld Label Maker for Office or Home. 0.261 Payne 100 taper Sign in to follow this . 5 1/4      Comments Taper from George Maurer It is considered one of the 10 best tapers of all time. (Gary Nicholson), Payne Canadian Canoe 8.5 Ft 7 Wt How it cast's and do you think I should have a look at some other 8.5 foot tapers before i start? But I thought you had a WF6 line on this one Steve?? and a rod  that feels one weight lower while fishing. I love the feel of my original Payne 100 and also an early 198, owned by a friend. Some of the taper libraries out there list model numbers associated with the parabolics...that's wrong...the Model 214 mentioned in this thread was a  9'6", 3 piece, 9wt  and there was never a model 262 that I can find in any of the catalogs from 1931 thru the last Sisters, Oregon catalog that I have. 70" = .283 0.152 A couple of years ago I thought I might build the ultimate 7'9" parabolic 5wt by blending the Payne and the Para-14 until I looked at the stress curves. I liked the Payne 101 a bit better. They  are  mostly over .003/inch. The only Payne 104 taper I can find is in David Ray's taper library. 2.5" = .080 If you want all the fly rod tapers in a single MS Excel file, I've got it here: drtapers.xlsx. Payne [Ohio] - Payne is een plaats (village) in de Amerikaanse staat Ohio, en valt bestuurlijk gezien onder Paulding County. Drop the line to 4 and the curve is an almost exact match for one of the 200s I've made which is a 5 and one I through bass bugs with. 66 5/16 (against the female ferrule) (Rich Margiotta), My understanding is that the average joe has trouble casting. I am attaching the graphs (click for larger versions) for anybody who's interested. I understand that  Payne struggled with the whole idea of para rods According to Schwiebert, much of  the Payne Parabolics' development  was done by John Alden Knight and Charles Ritz. Thanks for the info maybe I will try again. for a faster, but great dry or nymphing rod. (Bob Norwood). I prefer 2 piece rods, but that’s not a show-stopper. 90" = .350 This page was last edited on 2 March 2020, at 14:29 (UTC). 15   .333    .237    .139 Wasn't that thoughtful of him? Not so stiff as the Dickerson, admittedly, but very powerful.     65  .248 (interpolated) 45" = .214 Followers 0. When I look at the taper as  it is in DR's It just doesn't look right.     15         .124 34    .276    .184    .072, Deduction for varnish 0.004  (Paul Gruver). Measurements on the VARNISHED/FINISHED rod from tip down: measured as close to the inch indicated as possible  given ferrules and guide wraps, but clearly not as accurate as above. The next rod I want to make should become a #5-6, 8.5 footer. View & download of more than 378 Payne PDF user manuals, service manuals, operating guides. The Payne 98 Remains One of Payne’s most Celebrated and Best Known Models. This model is a rod to take just about anywhere, and find it a pleasure to fish with. Fishing it all day will wear out your arm. Station Dimension Form Setting What am I missing? Allowance for form setting 0 .072    .085    .108    .125    .139    .153    .164    .172, .184    .195    .216    .229    .237    .253    .262    .268, .276    .289    .300    .311    .333    .385    .385    .385, Looking at how Payne chooses line weights then it does look like a 7wt. BTW, the 7'1" Payne Para that Hal cast was built out from a blank from Tim Zietak. 49.5" = .228     50  .208 Kraftpapieren tape van RAJA is sterk, soepel en heel makkelijk af te scheuren. These are the tapers in David Ray's library, in the order that they appear. It is comparatively a much lighter rod. My friend and bamboo guru,  rodmaker Syd Smith, let me cast his version of the Payne 201 just last week.     60         .251     62  .229      80          0.300          0.150 I cast one of Harry's at Grayrock a few years back and it was one of the nicest casting rods I've ever cast.     85  .306 FREE Shipping by Amazon. Huuhteluletkut, Imuletkut, Huuhtelusuuttimet, Liittimet, Letkukelat, Kaasumittarit, Viemärikamerat, Käytetyt imu/painelaitteet. They all have had the very reddish colored cane and English guides.      Ferrule 1 0/64 Location 0, 0            0.064          0.032 I used the Ron Barch  taper which smoothes out the jump between the tip and butt so you can  use a standard ferrule instead of a stepdown. Recommended Posts.      Number of pieces 2 (Henry Mitchell). Now, that is MY feel and MY casting style and depended upon what line that I used. I'm not saying they are bad casters, or bad rods. Line Weight 7 Anything else in Payne under 7 1/2' is going to be medium fast. 0.086 0.152 They are, when you get the timing right, cannons. Could the convex taper of the Payne really make  such a  massive difference? Reed - As you can see there are a lot of tapers attributed to Payne's 201. 55 - .228 They are characterized by a flexible but a stiffer middle and a relatively fine tips. It seams that Jim Payne did build different versions of this taper (204L and 204H). (Paul Julius), I have made thirty or forty of the Dennis Higham version, and while I have now made several empirical modifications to the numbers (of the kind of which Jerry would NOT approve, being very subjective and derivative and all), I have no problems with that version. Christmas Missives - Chat Room - Photo Galleries - Line Conversions - The Journey - Extreme Rodmaking - Rodmaker's Pictures - Donate - Store. I am really curious about what it is about the design of this lighter version of the 201 that it can still handle this line weight, and apparently well, too! Payne 100 taper. I think the drop over the ferrule is very important to the feel of this rod, so if you get the taper from a computer program, extrapolate the taper into the ferrule from each direction. The  Streamer rods, the Bass Bug rod, the Circular Bend Trout rod, the Spinning rods, the Bonefish rods and the Parabolics.     70         .277 The buyer has Payniamania, but is prepared to compromise. I have seen them with the an all cork seat with the acorn spacer as well as a slide band seat with a walnut spacer. It's in Jack Howell’s book, but he tells you to take of 6 thou for varnish. a Garrison 209, the dims in the first 40” (which are possibly the most critical in terms of line weight definition) are consistently 0.010 or more thinner than the Garrison (2 line weights lighter if you go with Ray Gould’s rule of thumb and significantly lighter even if you don’t)! I cast this rod at CRR, and loved it.      60          0.218          0.109 Taper does look like it could be a Payne. Never looked at them in any great detail Tom but I am going to have a close look now.           .340 to the end of the butt. Casting with a Triangle Taper 5 wt, this rod was very impressive. Payne 204L.     25  .130 I would call it medium/fast and very pleasant to fish with, a bit snappier than Dickerson's 6611. Did you notice the triple convex taper a la Vince Marinaro? I guess H stands for heavy and L for light. Length (feet) 8.5     * 7'6" for 4 or 5wt     10  .090 (Joe Arguello), Looks to me as if Payne didn't make many Para's either that or I don't have them. Post The tip itself seems to have the stress curve of a parabolic rod and the butt is stronger. (Robert Kope), This is per Dennis Higham. fast action. Amherst Scarborough 8653 3/2 8.5 ft 5 wt 95 is actually 91 station. (Tor Skarpodde), Thanks a lot for your comments. 15 - .304                      15 - .215                  15 - .123 10    .385    .253    .153 Bill, go into Hexrod and change either the Payne 100 or the 100h to 3 piece, depending on which you want to build. (Hal Bacon). * This taper was developed by Jim Payne and first sold by the E.F. Payne Company in 1931. A rod suited for larger western river fishing (if that  really means anything!?).     80         .307 The Paynes are quite different from the the Young family of paras. The rest of the post....Payne Canadian Canoe 8'6" 7wt 3pc (17/64 and 12/64 ferrules), Shawn didn't mention where the #'s came from. 25    .311    .229    .125 0.227 34 (against the female ferrule) with up-locking hardware) All sections are full length and straight. (Bill Walters). (Markus Rohrbach), I guess nobody is really familiar with the casting characteristics of the Payne 202, but I have a request to build a rod that must be a fast 3-piece 8 footer for 5-6 line weight. 20    .311    .229    .125 61 1/16 The Garrison is also a shorter rod, so would presumably be that little bit stouter in this regard as well.     85         .322 10 -.103 The bluing on the pocketed butt cap shows some minor handling marks, probably from the owner of this rod displaying it in a rod rack. You should wind up with a tip, dimension inside the male of .173 or so and a butt dimension inside the ferrule of .196. The Payne 101, 7'6" for 5 weight is a great taper for general river fishing situations.      40          0.167          0.084 I use Swiss ferrules, so the butt gets turned full round while the tips just get the corners rounded off slightly, with Accraglas epoxy they hold just fine. 0.345 If so, is the 204L the dry fly and the 204H the nymph rod? The rod weighs 3 5/8 oz. It looks like a 6 wt to me. 15 -.118 0.275 That is listed as a 8'6" 6 wt, so it is a likely candidate. For the remainder of the rod the dims are essentially 0.005 or more thinner. 10 - .355                      10 - .2255                10 - .135 So what would you recommend as the correct one to make. I think you should do your best. Or a Martha Marie for a bit more  of a backbone. ------- 0.067 0.105 Ferrules are size 12/64. 5" = .089     35         .177 What is the experience of any of you who have made #102 or cast one? (Dennis Higham), I'm partial to the 96, a 6'6" 4 wt. (Jerry Foster). 5/6 line weight. If you want a rod with a bit more punch have a look at the Granger. 7 1/2 feet, 2/2 for a 5 weight line (some like it with a DT4).      75          0.268          0.134 (Steve Weiss), I may be mistaken but the taper above looks more like a 3/4 wt to me. Not sure where it came from but it's in the 3 piece format with all the numbers showing. It casts well enough that I wanted the taper. cork grip 6 1/8" 70 - .274 LOL. To quote what Mike wrote on Clarks: "Rev. I believe it's the Payne 100H. What an experience as I caught the large brown that had ignored both of our offerings. Someone asked for the numbers for a Payne 100H. (Timothy Troester). What line are you using with the 204? I ran both these tapers through HexRod to get the stress curves, and the results are quite interesting. The taper I have for the Payne 8 foot 3 piece 5 wt.  5 - .078 Payne 101 Dickerson 8013 PHY Driggs River 7'2", 4/5 wt. 0     .385    .268    .172 I cant guarantee the one I'm sending,  but it looks like a 7 wt rod, average in the tip and it falling off (or is softer) into the butt, making the action a little slower. The taper, though, is measured how I plane it, so you will need to slide it. This is a perfect example of what screws up most new rod makers.     * 7'9" for 4 or 5wt     25         .145      50          0.191          0.096 17 1/16 15" = .130 92" = .375, guides Built on a Payne taper. Rather than being stiff in the middle and flexible in the butt like Young and Ritz they are flexible in the middle and get stiffer toward  the butt.     40         .196 0.203     15  .098 (Dennis Higham), That’s the one I have also. I like parabolic rods so this is no real surprise. Valikoimiin kuuluu mm. By the way, it's a 7'6" for a 5-weight, so, as you can see, Jim Payne designed this rod with you in mind! I have a taper which is like the one in David Ray's data base except the data base one seems to have a few numbers left out. 75 - .286 Obviously, Steve and Mike measured 2 very different rods, but they both were marked, by Jim Payne himself, as 201's. To add a bit to your thoughts on 8'0" rods, I believe that the Gillum 8'0" 6 weight as detailed in The Lovely Reed is a better and more pleasant rod than the Dickerson. And I think to enlarge the Tip from 0.063 to 0.074. 0.163 25   .311    .229    .125 - Wallpaper Abyss     95         .353 (Steve Weiss). Steve Blake masterfully restored the rod's varnish and bluing.      45          0.180          0.090 40" = .201 However, my taper was modified using RodDNA, and it is not consistent with having been derived from David Ray's using either controlled modification or stress values. 0.218 37 3/4     65         .258 What you think? Sold by Abercrombie and Fitch. 0.132     75  .271 you might look at the Waara 5 weight. IT IS TWEAKED. 95 - grip It was not indicated if he preserved the original wraps so we are representing this with new wraps. (Doug Easton), I made a Young Perfectionist (parabolic) and didn't like it a bit. I looked and it is 0.054 at the tip. Do the numbers reflect a .004 deduction for varnish or is .004 the recommended amount to reduce the numbers shown? (Ralph Tuttle), Some sites say deduct .004 from the taper for varnish, and some don't say anything. Check thm over carefully for typos before using. The fat end of the tips should be right at .202" Mike BUTT 0 350 5 350 10 350 15 310 20 285 25 268 30 248 What is your favorite Payne taper that would fit the following criteria? In 2014 I purchased a Payne #100 taper bamboo rod blank to build into customized rod to present to my grandson as a Christmas present. They look to me like parabolic tip sections mated to fast butt sections. It has been tweaked to suit his ideas of taper design. if you  like your rods to really bend deep into the handle (slower??) This because this I think it is better at protecting light tippets. (Gary Nicholson). These two are in David Rays taper library and RodDNA. 10 1/2 Hier folgt die Liste unserer Taper.      25          0.131          0.066 Suche ein Taper aus und melde es uns mit diesem ONLINE FORMULAR Durch Anklicken des Modells kannst du das Taper herunterladen Any Payne Taper 6 1/2',7', or 7 1/2' and what you like best about it and it's action. 15 I got this from Rob Hoffhines some years ago. I seem to remember that a few experimental 7'7" rods were made and sold, but I can't find a reference. (Jim Lowe), I'm hoping to make a Payne 101 as my next rod. Ferrule 2 0/64 Location 0 30 1/8 This board is for discussing the collecting of bamboo fly rods, both classic and modern. (Scott Turner), I made a Payne 98 (7', 4 wt.) Shawn posted it to the list../2001. Paynes aside, I am open to suggestion here. LOL  (Ken Paterson), I agree but if a customer asks for a specific rod. (Steve Weiss). That butt is pretty beefy compared to the 11 other 8' 3 piece Paynes I have. Up-locking aluminum hardware over walnut spacer. for Oregon  fishing).  5     .385    .262    .164 (Robin Haywood), Anybody have the taper for a 3-piece Payne 100? Erectile dysfunction is often a symptom of another issue, such as cardiovascular disease or diabetes. I've never seen one so I don't know if that's true. The original that I took the taper from was made by Payne for Abercrombie & Fitch, NY. tapers is illustrated below. I have an original 7'9" in the lighter 4/5wt and it's a  great casting  rod but  quite different  than the  Young Para-14's I've built. It will be my first venture out of the Paul Young taper family. It took a while to figure it out, he gives the #’s from the butt of each section, then 5" up for each section etc. 2 piece – A nice med-fast action rod based on the 100H The typical all-around rod. 30    .289    .195    .085     0           .063 Also look at the stress charts. Any help would be much appreciated. Your Payne Canadian Canoe taper came from Shawn Pineo. A couple of years ago I made a 8'6" 3 piece 5 wt that I have listed in my notes as derived from a Payne 104.     20  .112 (Reed Guice). 7 1/2' for a 4 weight line. Can someone help me with the correct L and H Taper? 25 7/8     60  .226  0     .385    .268    .172 ↳   Ephemera, empherma and Ephemerella..... ↳   Photos, paintings, written stories and talents. Yo! (Gary Marshall), I've made 4 or 5 of the Ron Barch version and I like it a lot. (Gary Nicholson), I cast a Payne Parabolic made by Rich Margiotta at a gathering last summer in Townsend, TN. (Peter McKean), I agree with Wendt that Dickerson is a great rod. I kindly request members of the list for some guidance on this matter. If anyone who cast it last year wants to weigh in here, have at it. Verkrijgbaar in een standaard en versterkte kwaliteit, ideaal om kartonnen dozen … The 100H is essentially a Payne 100 butt with a heavy (H) tip, somewhat faster tip. Construction Hex, Butt     Mid      Tip (Peter McKean), I agree, I made a Dickerson 8015. by crcaddis » 03/30/10 09:08, Post      5            0.070          0.035 ==Demografie== Bij de volkstelling in … Remember that respect and civility is the goal of this board. I Measured three flats and averaged them, then took .006 off for varnish. (Steve Weiss). For your consideration is an all original, difficult to source Payne 200L. But somehow I sense it will be more difficult than I think! I think I see the taper you mention in there. 0.345  (Gordon Koppin). (Jim Lowe). The 100H is essentially a Payne 100 butt with a heavy (H) tip, somewhat faster tip. I would beef up the tip 10-15 inches a bit if I were to build it again. The rods that I made to the accurate Higham numbers are lovely rods to use, and thought of very well by their owners. Number of tips 1 9 3/4 All nice rods. 99 $29.99 $29.99. Examples of what I’d provide, if  someone asked me about Paul Young rods (those I’m most familiar with).     45  .193 0.058 I got it from him a couple of years back to make a new tip for one that was down. Period. 90 - grip This rod features medium tempered cane with Payne dark brown wraps tipped yellow. PHY Perfectionist (Bill Walters) PHY Midge PHY Driggs River PHY Perfectionist PHY Para 15 PHY JJ Pezon & Michel Ritz Fario Club Hardy Tourney Payne 100H Dickerson 6611 Dickerson 7613 (Danny Twang) The Payne 262 is a bit stiffer than the 214 in the middle and the tip is finer.     64  .234  (interpolated) After searching the internet I found only a 204 taper. Does anybody have a taper for a Payne 104?      Rod Name Payne 100 This is why I only build my own tapers now. (Bob Norwood). Thanks for your help on selecting a Payne to build! This may explain why there are 4 Payne Paras in Rod DNA in the 7-8 ft 3-5 wt range . with an extra tip. Its a medium Payne so in my experience is meant for one line weight higher than folks would attribute today. Two very different rods. If you compare the figures with eg. (John Channer), I made the Ron Barch taper for my son, and the first time I cast it, I said to myself "Self, you NEED one of these!" My list: Don Anderson's 7'9", 5 wt. by fishbates » 03/30/10 09:00, Post Can somebody give me the tapers or a recommendation where I can find it? , Furnace user manuals, operating guides & specifications Welcome to my channel, Stick around for a bit and have a look through some of my videos. 60" = .263 These are my own opinions. (Neil Savage), I believe Mike Brooks has the taper of an actual 3 piece 100 made by Payne. Had to sell it off for some medical expenses years back, but had Hal make me another (his 198L, wherein he lightens the tip taper) that casts a DT-4 Phoenix silk poetically. Any opinions I have are personal preferences that are influenced  by my casting style and the type of fishing I do.     50         .227 20 3/8 30   .289    .195    .085 The blank was done by Tim Zietak and all the other work was done by myself including making the reelseat and a hand rubbed varnish finish. Whereas, I could not find/purchase/afford a 198 of that era, I called Hal Bacon, described the action, and he replicated the rod exactly as I later cast that one right next to my friend's early 198. 46 Max Payne 3 HD Wallpapers and Background Images. That also, is not parabolic. the step down ferrule and what I have previously referred to as the gorilla butt. Now my question: Can somebody tell me his experience with this rod. I think the taper submitted by George Maurer might be like this with the number of compounds that show in the stress curve(not Dennis Higham's submission). (Bill Walters), Payne 100 7.5 Ft 4 Wt (Bret Reiter), Tips Home - What's New - Tips - Articles - Tutorials - Contraptions - Contributors - Search Site - Contact Us - Taper Archives 80 - .296 (begin swell) 15    .333    .237    .139     86  .3325 All 25 - .271                      25 - .191                  25 - .093 (Stephen Dugmore), I would say it's a 3/4 also. Get it as soon as Tomorrow, Jan 21. I have owned and built both of the tapers.      30          0.143          0.072 (Markus Rohrbach), I have built and use the following 8.5 footers .      15          0.101          0.051 I think we know a lot more about rod design these days. Payne and Payne Photography has been providing the highest quality portraits for students and parents in the Sacramento Valley area since 1960. Yeah I know;  but, Mike swears it's a 100 3 piece one-off made by Payne and marked that way. 65" = .274 Please do not take this as a criticism.      35          0.155          0.078     5    .0725 Payne tapers are excellent and very consistent when they are made within the same timeframe. If you are going to build this rod, take  the little bit of extra trouble to use the taper as circulated by Dennis Higham, as, again in my opinion, it and the one in the archives are  like chalk and cheese. (Neil Savage), I cast a couple of Payne 101's at Super Boo 2 in Maine, nice rod, 7.5' 5 wt. .      Deduction for varnish 0 I like to make rods I can  fish, so a mid-weight rod is most desirable (4-6 wt.     80  .282 The guide spacing from the tiptop is: 4 5/8 Nothing over 7 1/2' as I couldn't keep an open enough mind to ever give any 8' rod a fair chance. The rods get stiffer as you approach the grip. How does this work? Mr. Sal Fontinalis...are you in? Would anyone be willing to share the taper or point me in the right direction where I might find it? There are 10 snakes plus the stripper. Max Payne kan verwijzen naar: .     * 7'9" for 6 or 7wt. 40 1/4 Lee Eames... actually has an original Payne 100 that was custom built by Jim Payne as a 3 piece rod. Thanks for the taper, it looks like a great rod.     31  .147 (Jim Lowe), OK I was gonna take offense to that statement..........then I saw the word average! 55" = .244 I'll choose the one I think fits me best. Here they are, from an original, measured with my own grubby hands. One was at Somerset many moons ago, my rod that I later sold. 56 3/4 85 - .352 (swell) Comprehensive guide for users to find solutions to the common problems associated with this device. 80" = .315 Neither is drastic, though. Can handle a bit more of a breeze but not too much. (Neil Savage). 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