So if Zoro was against them, Oda would have made Zoro win against them somehow like he did previously with Zoro’s fights such as Mr.1 or Monet. With the morning the two carried on their celebration. Let's not forget that this KKG also went up against Doffy's strongest Awakening attack, and this was at a point where Awakening was strong enough to push Gear 4 back, and the Spiderweb for defense as well. Also important to remember is, once we come out of the timeskip, Luffy was always that strong. Even when they eventually get stronger than Jinbei, they will continue to be comparable to each other because Luffy has and always will be the strongest. Why I think Mihawk cut Zoro's eye. At the same time, the blade forced hardening on his whole arm and emaciated it. And when Tashigi asks wether he used Haki or not, Zoro does not even bother answering. Where is the suspense? What I DON'T agree with, is the suggestion that Asura would be able to match King Kong Gun. [OP QUIZ] Which One Piece character he is? Strength means nothing in new world. Because Oda wanted Zoro to have at least one sword from Oden and decided to make that, special. "How did I manage to let myself get roped in by someone like you?" Oda needed a way to: Ah yes here we go the untapped and untouched power of Zoro. Furthermore as clearly seen in this next panel zoro went to sleep essentially after a long night of drinking XD Defeat? On the chapter 687, Tashigi said that Zoro wasn't able to fight with women but he showed he can. This was actually pretty fun to read and go through! The first mate of Mugiwara no Luffy is a person who at first didn’t even want to join the crew. The most recent point of comparision are Vergo and Pica, where an injured Sanji fought on par with Vergo and Zoro got stalemated hard by Pica until he got distracted and Zoro was able to take advantage of that thanks to Orlumbrus (and I know you said that we can't directly compare them, but Vergo being Doffy's most trusted subordinate he should be at least at the same level as Pica). Lucci was stronger than Kaku and Jyabura combined. From the East Blue to the New World, anything related to the world of One Piece belongs here! Zoro. Luffy answered for the both of us. That is why power scaling is irrelevant now. Luffy has only struggled in absolutely putting down Commanders thanks to G4's time limit, but Zoro has had relatively even skirmishes with other Supernova, so i'd be surprised if he can suddenly overwhelm a YC the way Gear 4 does. One of them mutters something about Zoro being the cause of this, which enrages Luffy. However what is most notable in these clashes going back to powerscaling is that Fuji was pushed back by Zoro in a disadvantageous position while luffys Haki-d up gear 3 punch barely achieves the same result. No one can deny the amount of growth Luffy went through there his haki got better his gear 4th got better and he has 2 shiny yonko commanders under his belt. RORONOA ZORO why did you save me?. [OP QUIZ] Can you put these characters in the correct camp, Marine or Pirate? It was finally during an overpowered and surprising attack that he took his captain by surprise. Imo what Zoro's powerup from Enma has done, as well as Sanji's Raid Suit, is draw them back to where things where before relatively, since Luffy has pretty much gotten all of the action and Haki upgrades. Press J to jump to the feed. Despite getting pinned by Fuji's fruit Zoro manages to send out a flying slash with just 1 sword enough to push Fuji back Zoro strikes back. Zoro defeats Hody underwater In fact the only reason Hody manages to keep going is by taking more steroids fed to him by his subordinate. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. Have fun discussing. Ashura has become his greatest trump card. 38. White Hair Hody White Hair Hyouzou. Zoro asked no one in particular, a blush of embarrassment rising over his face. He also later asks if leaving the crew is such a simple thing. So how exactly can Zoro remain equals with luffy when gear 4 exists. It is a seal to Zoro’s power but it is also the key to a new attack. second of all when the bear guy transfer all of the passed out luffy's pain and tireness to zoro, zoro is still standing, even WITH all the damage zoro received before, meaning zoro is much more durable than luffy look at it this way, whose goal requires more strength? Oda could have ended this fight as he did with King vs Sanji but no, he made Zoro to counter Fujitora’s gravity while Zoro was suffering by the gravity and pushed Fujitora few meters back. So where does this scar come into effect? Roronoa Zoro (ロロノア・ゾロ, spelled as "Roronoa Zolo" or "Roronoa Zollo" in some English adaptations), nicknamed "Pirate Hunter" Zoro (海賊狩りのゾロ, Kaizoku-Gari no Zoro), is a fictional character in the One Piece franchise created by Eiichiro Oda.Zoro is in fact top 5 swordsman in all anime.. At first glance, the fruit would seem straight out useless, but after witnessing how amazingly Luffy utilizes it, fans might realize that there is … The only person Zoro has to compare himself too in their is none other than Sanji. So Gear 4’s strenght is more than enough for Yonko Commanders, it’s the versality and the external powers of the fighters that make them Yonko Commander lvl. So while you're absolutely right in that he does in fact pull away thanks to WCI, you're underestimating the gap that was there before it. Scratches appeared on Luffy's shoulder and Aya's cheek. For all intents and purposes, it has been how Zoro's gotten stronger, the same way the Raid Suit has been Sanji's reluctant avenue to more power. His body convulsed from the pleasure that hit him. It is only after Zoro realises he cannot win that he offers his life to Kuma and its only then that Sanji steps in and even then 1 blow from zoro takes him out of the rest of the events. Hell even recently we see them coming together to save O-Toko. After that, Zoro faced Pica but again Pica was too weak for him, that’s why Oda gave to Pica a formidable Devil Fruit “Ishi Ishi no Mi”, the power to be one with any stone. Luffy vs the Kuja pirates. However it does allow him to train his Haki much like it is highlighted Luffy is doing. In the northern cemetery: ... Zoro says, Finally I can cut the fire as I wished Robin take what you want and go out from here. Why are there so many of these posts again recently? Infer what u must. Why are you comparing our boys!! Luffy inflicting the scar on his face. So we get situations where people debate who had the stronger opponent Pica and vergo, Absalom and Ryuma when there's no concrete evidence saying Zoro would have an easier or harder time with any of Sanji's opponents. Kuma healed Luffy, meaning that wasn't truly all of Luffy's pain and fatigue. Zoro fanboys should learn from this post, he is backing his opinion with sources and explains it in a reasonable way. These arguments don't usually mention that Luffy was always capable of Gear 4 post-timeskip, which changes a lot in hindsight. Sanji isn't portrayed to be anywhere near Luffy unless it's as a Monster Trio (Zoro is there in the middle of them). Where did Luffy get his X scar? A rivalry like theirs can only exist if both rivals are extremely close to each other. If you want discussion, please sort the subreddit by New. According to the One Piece site “the hand of Pica was the size of city in Dressrosa » so Golem Pica’s was the size of many cities. Does anyone know in which episode Zoro cuts a bottle that Luffy has his finger stuck in with an axe? Actually going back to that fight for a large part Zoro had Mr1 beat in every category except he was unable to do damage. I'd agree even. The second is the time skip itself where there is drastic difference in the calibur of their respective teachers as a matter if fact invakov doesn't actually train Sanji he instead grows through running and acquiring the combat recipies. Gears 2 & 3. Why is Zoro lost ? Secondly doriki is terrible power system it quite literally only measures physical strength Jabura even comments he would have more if he were transformed. Archived. In Act II: → He meets Yasu and the rest of Ebisu town. No matter how much you want to hype up Zoro, you should never forget that he's a subordinate and Luffy's the captain. Cracker with his DF Bisu Bisu no Mi and Katakuri with his DF Mochi Mochi no Mi and especially his Future Sight. Luffy, however, just needed to figure out HOW to hit Crocodile. "Zoro had a harder time against Me. A rivalry like theirs can only exist if both rivals are extremely close to each other. imo, pirate king obviously. Now Zoro is facing Kaido and Big Mom two people from the elite again with his captain Luffy. Sanji shares neither a dream nor profession with Zoro. Even in portrayal, their rivalry started as a sort of parallel to Dori and Brogi, Zoro had a harder time against Mr.1 than Sanji had with Mr.2, Kaku and Jabra were basically equals, and in general they're always shown side by side when they're covering Luffy's back. Sanji had finished off with his legs and did one final kick to his ribcage breaking it. Prem is right this is a stupid theory, his evidence used for Zoro’s reason to leaving the Straw Hat crew is not Zoro’s character. But why didn't he defeat Monet at once and was only defending himself and the crew? In both cases they overcame armaments and observation haki respectively. If you go back to the 2 instances we see ahura in both Zoro uses a different move which suggests its a versatil technique and not one strong move. Their dynamic has never changed since the very beginning of this series. Oh just quickly cause people love to meme this. There are many factors as to why Rayliegh didn't. When Zoro was fighting both, he didn’t land a hit on them. G4 also heavily buffs his speed and durability as well, meanwhile Zoro gets stuck with just another attack like every other, but stronger. Also, to play Devil's Advocate for a second, he used haki really quickly when he cut Monet's face just to flex on her a little bit. "Hold it, you two. They can both train and maximize them even further too, which is great. [OP QUIZ] Do you know everything about Skypiea Arc? But there is someone who Zoro often interacts with their opponent, that is Luffy. First let me correct you guys by saying Zoro did indeed cut Kaido. Zoro: [hurriedly pushing his intestines back into his body] Zoro: Yeah, why did you ask? Zoro manages to bend his body and swing the swords in the form of an inverted "S" shape while performing a vertical spin, slashing the opponent six times simultaneously so fast that he did not seem to move at all. However in Zoro's case she is not allowed the opportunity to attempt trickery. I would actually say zoro is stronger. Because that time in Amazon Lily, Luffy realized that if his brother is dead he still have his crew. Here's the thing I've seen alot of people going around talking about how luffy would solo his entire crew and how Luffy has set himself part and is waay stronger than everyone else including Zoro. Fuji was more prepared for Luffy and didn't expect much from Zoro. Often when power scaling discussions come up surrounding Zoro its often Zoro vs Sanji. also, why wouldn't Luffy and Zoro team just blitz them right off the bat, unless I'm underestimating fairy tail speed Luffy alone should be able to blitz both of them. He was screaming from all the pain his arms were ripped off by Luffy and Zoro had cut off all his skin on the front showing off all his organs you could see his heart beating. Later, Luffy wakes up to take a piss, to find all the people who fed and entertained him and his Crew slaughtered and dying. The first is zoros famous nothing happened moment. One thing people should understand is the fact that Luffy wasn’t weaker than Cracker or Katakuri, actually Luffy was YonkoCommander1 level since post time-skip. There is the moment where Doffy kicks Fuji and the man doesnt even budge. Luffy right now is definitely stronger than Zoro... but its not because of gear 4th. After their 2000th fight (and Kuina's 2000th victory) Zoro challenged her in private for one more match - with real swords. Still, given that the anime did the "x" … In fact, they were getting annoyed by the cat pirate's antics as he continued to disappear into thin air. So that means, Zoro’s feat is comparable to top tier feats. Zoro and Luffy are equals and always have been. Oda choose him and not even Luffy, he fought Hawkins and if the tiger didn’t came, he would have probably win because he cut one of the strongest card of Hawkins without taking any serious damages after that. Luffy was born in Foosha Village to Monkey D. Dragon and an unknown woman. Now i do believe Sanji was alot closer to zoro during the pre time skip but there are 2 events that set them apart clearly. Zoro sliced Luffy's chest and ended up giving Luffy an X shaped scar. And the moment Zoro faced Doflamingo and was ready to attack him, Oda brought Fujitora a guy who hate Warlord more than anything to stop Zoro. Luffy and Zoro have never been portrayed as equals post-Whiskey Peak, and Luffy wasn't exactly in his right mind during that fight either. With Mayumi Tanaka, Akemi Okamura, Kazuya Nakai, Hiroaki Hirata. 2." So strenghtwise, Zoro was always next to Luffy that’s why Oda choose them to stand together front of Yonkous. As a child, Zoro trained at a dojo in Shimotsuki Village. Zoro pulled back his sword to cut, but Link did a wave with the Fire Rod, which created a blast of fire, engulfing Zoro, but to Link's surprise, Zoro had regained his other two swords, and deflected the fire with the 1080 Pound Cannon, which sent the fire waving right back at … Without a doubt gear 4 is a massive powerup and I would say my Zoro> Luffy agenda ended right then and there. Long and blow harded sure but here we are, the truth. Now while those opponents were all decisively weaker than both of them, what this can be taken to mean to me is Zoro is comparable to non Gear 4 Luffy (stronger imo) which IS pretty much what you said, and your argument then solely rests on whatever Zoro's top end technique is making up for not one, but two massive gulfs in power, which imo, is a bit unrealistic. Chap 5 Misunderstanding. Directed by Kônosuke Uda. second of all when the bear guy transfer all of the passed out luffy's pain and tireness to zoro, zoro is still standing, even WITH all the damage zoro received before, meaning zoro is much more durable than luffy It has a solid defense and a sharp offense, sharp enough to easily cut stones. Even though it was a cheap shot, he cut through Apoo's haki covered weapon, so he obviously could've done it without the cheapshot. There's a lot of other things I want to address like Pica and Vergo but I will get to them another time. Sanji was busy in the kitchen and Luffy was busy with Usopp and Chopper, so Zoro was left to explain what had happened. Zoro and Luffy's Opponents in the New World, Zoro and Luffys first direct comparisons in the new world come right out the gate in fishman island where Zoro and Luffy both have interesting interactions with their final opponents of the arc. And now when everyone claimed things such as Zoro is way weaker than Luffy, he is one of the 5 members of Worst Generation to face not one but two Yonkos. I believe that by the end of wano kuni we will truly have the answer to this discussion Zoro has alot of opportunity to grow stronger here. Well I hope I've convinced u by this point that Zoro and Luffy are basically equals so far well except for one thing. The Reason why Zoro is the Second Main Character of the Series, 3 Possible Scenarios for the Final Battle vs Kaido. His blindness is his ironically his comedic aspect but when it comes to combat hes still an admiral. The problem with Monet is we all know she wasnt even the strongest antagonist there that honor goes to Vergo unfortunately Monet falls victim to Zoro being too strong. Arlong has trapped Luffy in the ocean and Zoro faces the six-sword wielding octopus Hatchan. Even in their delusion. [OP QUIZ] Can you name the Pirate Crew by their Jolly Roger? The real reason Luffy is stronger than Zoro is his experiences on whole cake Island. headaches Turns out they didn't get more than a headache. But yea, i'd say there was always a pretty healthy gap. Next Zoro defeats Hody the big villain of the arc and even defeats him at a disadvantage. Zoro later clashes with Fuji again when he blocks Luffy and Zoros Path. You would think Zoro having clashed with Fuji twice and seeing what he's capable of doing to Luffy Zoro would back down but i mean if you didnt know Zoro. Luffy has in fact pulled away more thanks to WCI. You said Zoro is supposed to have the best CoA in the history of One Piece... but Luffy learned a form far more advance on the matter of a WEEK. In fact Zoro tells her she shouldve the run the second she realised she couldnt win You should've run. So think of those same fights that Zoro and Luffy shared opponents with, but instead, imagine Gear 4 Luffy. So Zoro, naturally, kills most of the Bounty Hunters. What they were though, is close enough that it would always be a good fight, which we frankly don't see a whole lot in side fights. Here, Zoro used FAH with such skill that he chose to cut Monet’s Logia powers, and not to cut her real body. Luffy's always been above his crew and that's a fact. However this is not a Zoro Sanji comparison perhaps another post. ... Apoo did drop luffy and had Zoro try to run off with him. The sword had cut Luffy's inner thigh, thankfully a few inches away from his manhood. first of all rubber is weak against sword, if zoro can cut steel, why cant he cut rubber? Messages: 1,351 Likes Received: 3,451 Trophy Points: 13,260 Bounty Points: 250 . Another proof that Zorro couldn't use Haki at that time is that he was able to cut through Daz Bone's metal (which is actually possible with enough skill), but he couldn't cut through Enel's lighting (impossible without using Busoshoku Haki). Zoro‘s speech is brought to a climax when he tells Luffy that if he goes on to humiliate himself and still pretend to be his leader, then Zoro will be the one to leave the crew. Enma was never a direct power up and certainly not large one like gear 4th being the same grade as Shisui that could never be the case. It would appear that Zoro has trained his FAH during the time-skip, to … Now obviously in the case of the former this does mean Luffy> Zoro for sure big gap. SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER..... i don't understand why some people think zoro is stronger than luffy , luffy is the captain , it would defeat the whole purpose of him being the captain , who has ever heard of a second in command being stronger than a first in command , i want to point out that zoro's dream is to surpass mihawk and luffys dream is to be the … In Kuri, Zoro is going to Flower Capital and wondering am I close? Through Zoro's efforts, Kuma offers a deal to him. This lead me to two conclusions . Futhurmore at the end of enies Lobby both Kaku and Lucci were completely koed leaving jabura and the other cp9 yo take care of them yet other similarity between Zoro and Luffy rather than Sanji. Gomu Gomu no mi (Rubber Rubber fruit) is Luffy's signature fruit. But again thank you for the response. Zoro found himself on his hands and knees, before his captain. Furthermore, Kuma lied about killing Zoro. Unfortunately for us Zoro fans Luffy does have another level and its called gear 4th. Vivi will rejoin the Straw Hat Pirates as a permanent member, A viable and satisfying way to defeat Kaido. Now let’s talk about Wano. Zoro and Luffy were never equals pre-timeskip. Whether it's direct or not (which it isn't, you're right there) doesn't matter. But I am here to put an end to it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The former pirate hunter Roronoa Zoro, the man aspiring to become the world’s greatest swordsman. Even if you believe that they were equal at Whiskey Peak which I don't b/c that whole fight was just a joke then Ennies Lobby should have set you straight. I think Zoro is loyal to Luffy for a couple reasons, Luffy saved him from being executed. It is stated that a normal swordsman would be drained to a dry husk immediately when trying to use the sword, and when Zoro first does so, he cuts a large cliff section off its base despite trying to cut a tree. He won all his fights without getting serious or injury. So Fujitora came and used his power against a non-intel Zoro, he send Zoro under the ground. Zoro‘s speech is brought to a climax when he tells Luffy that if he goes on to humiliate himself and still pretend to be his leader, then Zoro will be the one to leave the crew. [OP QUIZ] How Well Do You Know Roronoa Zoro? Why is Zoro lost ? The way Zoro defeated Monet is one of my favorite victories in One Piece. There was a mysterious power that protected his captain, definitely. But the series creator explained why Luffy won long ago: because he shouts. That’s why there wont be any conflicts between Zoro and Luffy, instead Zoro will respect Luffy more because Luffy endured the pain without his nakama comforting him. → Zoro then gets lost. They are the future Pirate King and World’s Strongest Swordsman, so it’s understandable for them to be front of two powerhouses. But I am here to put an end to it. Even in their delusion. At this point, Zoro decided that he had enough, and he channeled his focus, and with a Shishi Sonson, he managed to cut through the body of Mr. 1. I'd love to see what those fights would look like now really. Theres nothing to suggest Fuji was more or less serious in both instances Fuji was doing his job as a marine. After this fight which many would see as extremely difficult gor Zoro he continues to run around even carrying Nami. Luffy (and Jinbei at the moment) are above them and the rest of the crew are below them. But lets also be real, he dosent put that much effort in being strong compared to how much Zoro and Luffy did in their training, specialy since his attention was diverted into cooking as well as getting stronger, even in his childhood he was learning more to cook than to fight. But I hope I at least got my point across. Both of these guys were of course no match for Luffy and Zoro but the parallels are obvious why would Oda go through the trouble of having these characters interact with both our main boys if not to show that despite 2 years the dynamic hasn't changed Luffy and Zoro are equals. That was an amazing feat because only few people are capable to do that only with their raw strenght. Bounty Collected Here we see zoro ,sanji (in namis body) and brook all knocked out seemingly defeated but things are much different in context. LolonoisZolo. Kuma is a very good actor and that's exactly why he is a double secret agent for the revolutionaries. Theory spoiler. Iits like saying Luffy is trash and cheap because he ate an akuma no mi LOL, the RS is not a cheap trick either. Zoro has finally seen a big of struggle in battle as he comes up against his contemporaries in the worst generation but we have yet to see Zoro be pushed to the point where he must go beyond his limits, and finally the return of Ashura. I wish I had more time to really go through but yea. This lead to a battle of attrition where eventually Mr1 began to take over fight thanks to Zoros lack of ability to harm him. "Because I'm amazing that's how!" I'd go as far as to say for the brief period that Sanji had used the Raid Suit before Zoro got Enma, Sanji was decisively the 2nd strongest in the crew, and now Zoro is slightly stronger again, per usual. Zoro was forced to withstand a safe amount of some of Luffy's pain and fatigue. Now as for Gear 4. Luffy does not grow in strength till the Katakuri fight, and since he actively didn't use Gear 4, he was definitely holding back what has proven to be most of his power. That alone is a pretty decent gulf in top end power. Boundman was already physically stronger than every Commander it came across, so imagine how much stronger that KKG is than them? He goes for Luffys body and who is first person back on his feet defending luffy? Cardboard Jewsuke Draffut. Monet like the other 2 was definitely below them but its worth noting her reaction to them was almost identical Luffy is too strong She believes Luffy is too strong for her to defeat yet she finds a way to at least trap him. No featured entries match the criteria. During this arc, Luffy and a hypnotized Zoro end up fighting, which how he ends up getting an "x" scar across his chest — from a wound inflicted by Zoro. 3. Zoro having better CoA than Luffy certainly isnt in the manga. It does appear Raliegh did use a form of advanced CoA because Kizaru did get cut on the cheek without direct contact. It doesn’t make sense unless Oda made that on purpose because he didn’t want a Zoro vs Doflamingo. At no point in the entire series are zoro and sanji portrayed as equals, they are portrayed as zoro being significantly stronger. Sanji and Luffy have both mastered these to the point where its a completely natural part of their everyday combat arsenal. and KGC like this. Although this is perfectly good evidence for the most part, I think there is enough evidence in Wano alone to suggest that Zoro will play a significant role in killing Kaido alongside Luffy. Dragon left Luffy in the care of his grandfather Monkey D. Garp, and Garp did many dangerous things to Luffy like leaving him alone in the woods and tying him to a balloon in order to make him stronger.. 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