I had a strict deadline though. Our coats are fully handmade with floating canvases. Explore. If you want to be safe, try on something they already have and give your opinion on it. If done as a sports coat, would you consider it too structured/formal to wear tieless? If you decide to trust one and go for it how far can you impose your ideas of cut and style on them? Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, Whitcomb & Shaftesbury is based on George Street in Mayfair, just a few paces from Savile Row, and offers two bespoke services: its Savile Row Bespoke service, which is made in the conventional fashion in on-site workrooms, and Classic Bespoke, which is cut in London and made in the brands workshop in Chennai, India. We now turn to the problems I believe the suit has. After all, people happily walk into Canali and hand over 1500 for factory made MTM suits from a block pattern I would expect to pay much closer to 2k for a bespoke product like this (which even then is still a cracking deal). It seems to have a bit of drape, and the shoulders arent too military? Id say they are both very good. We wanted clients to be able to fit garments quickly while travel is open. So, if youre intrigued to try an impeccable bespoke tailor with impressive ethical credentials, you know where to go. That means the clothes have been designed specifically for you and no one else. How strange, and to deepen the mystery further it was a pair of trousers which I had seen. Kind Regards How are the characters hobbies evidence of their social class. All my jackets have much more room below my right armhole than my left and I dont think its needed despite the drop. The strange thing is that this occurs in three different suits from 2 different makers with 3 fittings each. Alex Natt. Really great blog. From the sounds of it you were quite impressed with the offshore made suit. I havent Im afraid apart from Luxire part of the problem is theres a lot of them so its hard to say anything comprehensive. It is another interesting approach. I am not sure what it is made of but it is soft and plush. Its unlikely your right armhole doesnt have to be lower, unless that right shoulder is significantly smaller. Or would it be too structured? Are there any similar services like the Huntsman 100 from other savile row tailors you would recommend? If youre into your clothes, you might well know the name Whitcomb & Shaftesbury. In my case, a long body and short legs! Apologies if this is an obvious question. Im more interested in the actual craft. So, the duo determined that theyd fulfill the role of giving clients good, honest guidance, before recruiting a team of Savile Row trained cutters and tailors, including John McCabe and Bob Bigg, highly experienced stalwarts of the Row with close to 120 years combined experience. Your website is an amazing read. Drakes MTM program is priced only slightly above its RTW, so its something Ive wondered about a lot as I try and build my own tailoring wardrobe, especially of softer styles. When the auto-complete results are available, use the up and down arrows to review and Enter to select. Quite pleased with my first classic bespoke suit from W&S. The style is slightly different, in that W&S tend to cut with a little less drape, less of a wide shoulder. Impressive finish, congratulations! Hi Simon, can i suggest an article on what are realistic expectations for bespoke services, and how to get the most out of bespoke-made items? And it would look a touch more formal than a Neapolitan, but as long as youre happy with that (and my Gieves is similar in cut) then that would work fine. No, not necessarily. The twist of thread is 40 - that is for mass-market shirts; the fabric with a double twist (two ply) from 80 to 160, is used for high-quality high-quality shirts. There were two more fittings in NY with Bob (got the suit at the end of the second one). This article describes my way of creating a closet for a character. Wondered if you had any thoughts ? And in your opinion would a soft jacket from W&S be suitable to wear with relaxed chinos and jeans? But different to an A&S drape cut, and very different to anything French or Italian. Black mens jeans: how to choose and with what to wear? The prices are comparable. Im all for casting a wider net but lets keep it in the round. Thansk, Yes, although they are differences, such as less drape, leds of an extended shoulder. Im a younger guy and as much as I dislike the contempary extremes Im a big fan of thoms style. I am considering a suit commission using W&S and I personally like a wider lapel as it looks better for my body type (proportionally larger chest and smaller waist). All chests are hand felled and lapels and collars are hand padded. And I would also sound a general warning that getting a satisfying result when asking a cutter to do a different style than what theyre used to is very hard. Theyre reasonably flexible, but I wouldnt ask them to do Neapolitan. Can you confirm the exact fabric for reference if it is navy rather than the mid blue the photographer has managed to make it look like? Very flattering! Thanks for your reply Simon. And quality is quality, no matter where its sourced. Thanks! Hi Simon The quality of his work surpasses anything I have had from the Row, or any of the big name French or Italian tailors often named here. No worries Ravi. After reading your reviews, I am definitely considering the W&S Classic Bespoke offering. "For bespoke needs, Suresh and I opened Whitcomb & Shaftesbury on Savile Row. Ie price including VAT is GBP 1362. Care to share your trick? If the later, have you seen any examples? I commissioned a suit from W&S and Siam was the cutter. From the H&S Classic Worsteds bunch do recall if this was the navy, dark navy or midnight? Im looking at getting a first sportsjacket for casual wear made but the justification of 1500 for one despite the longetivity is negative. Would you say W&S would be a sound option for someones first bespoke suit and if so, any advice on a maiden voyage such as this? The navy suit turned out lovely and is a comfortable business staple. Ultimately, the tailor will be chosen to suit my budget. I am still a student but want to get my first bespoke suit made; would you still recommend Whitcomb and Shaftesburys classic bespoke and have you any experience with Huntsmans 3,500 classic bespoke? Re your question from Anonymous above, Des had made me a couple of garments. Whitcomb might have a slightly greater range in style than Sexton, but not much. Although given how many issues tailors have had over the past 30 years (particularly changing business models or cutters so youre relationship goes out the window) I think theyve got as much chance of staying around as anyone. I chose the Holland and Sherry 892004 slate blue Harris tweed and plunged in. Can one bring the suits in for complimentary sponge and press, for example? Much more Italian style, soft and more curved. There are a few things you can look for to tell if a suit is bespoke:Firstly, bespoke suits will always be made from premium materials. There are also things the Indian workshop can do that you wouldnt give to most Row tailors. This is very close to my ideal suit, though I wouldnt get the lap seam on the back, and Id get flapped hacking pockets. I question, upon reflection, if you can go to Spain and Italy (and India via W & S) might we see a time when you take into consideration the many fine UK tailors at points outside of London. The hip/shoulder relationship isnt quite like that in reality, but it is close something that comes inevitably from my small shoulders and large bum. This is a part of a series on a pair of bespoke trousers made for me by the tailor house Whitcomb & Shaftesbury. Thanks!! I also wouldnt say it will make any difference seeing them both at different points. Was this cloth amongst their offerings at their base price or was there a cost supplement? Am I safe to give them full and total control and have the suit made in their house style, or will I end up regretting it? Every aspect of the garment from the fabric to the style is customized and tailored for your unique body. Follow. Do you recommend against a tuxedo as a first commission from a tailor? I have to say at the first fitting was impressed at the quality / value. This is one thing that has kept me reading your blog youre not a snob (in that way). They certainly could, and Id say you should expect at least two fittings ideally three (with the last one being with a finished suit, but something small needs to be tweaked always a good idea to get that tweak, painful as it may be! In terms of an every day style for work, would you so this would be more suitable than Edward Sexton? No it would look good without a tie. And no, I dont think its appropriate for business. Fashion Designer - Whitcom & Shaftesbury Several top brands including Dunhill, Gieves & Hawkes, and Ozwald Boateng offer this service. I didnt think too much of G&W so am taking them out of the running. Quite affordable at $500/600 trousers. That means someone has taken measurements of your body and then adjusted the clothes to fit those measurements. And often they vary in service depending on who does the outfitting. Its unlikely theyll be able to do it in much of a rush though, given it has to go back to Naples each time to be made. Im also based at Mortimer House, on the 6th floor. After much internet research and reading your recommendation I have taken the plunge with W&S. Some advice if you would; Im looking to get a suit (tan cord) garment dyed thinking blue, dark green or dark grey (not to be worn for work). It is just one mans opinion but going in I was definitely expecting more. I might someday soon be able to have a quality bespoke suit as this falls within my budget. 1. Thanks for your reply. Simon quick question. See how much you wear it and what you enjoy about it, at least for a while. If you are buying off-the-rack clothes, they are tailored to fit you. I have a coat in a pale wool that perhaps could have looked like a toile? I liked their house style but it indeed has more drape in the chest than I had experienced in the past. Now looking forward to first fitting in 6-7 weeks. Its not the end of the world, but it certainly bugs me to face an issue which I did not face with RTW- a collar gap. Another question: in another post you mention desiring to be measured at the house itself; a friend of yours had gone to a trunk show and did not receive good results with fit. It also depends how close the styles are. Thank you for your help and the great website. How about the Huntsman 100 product? Like this article? Their classic bespoke service, which involves cutting the suit in London (by a very experienced Row cutter), and then having it largely made in India (in a workshop run by a Row tailor) promised fantastic value at 1350 + VAT for a suit. To give some context, i am early 30s and now have the income to dabble with a few bespoke pieces; so far, this suit and spectacles from General Eyewear (selected based on reviews on your site, thanks!). Interesting to see how well a lime tie works too; I wouldnt have considered that. Bespoke suits are custom-Made suits that are tailor-made to fit the specific measurements of the person ordering them. Are there any other tailors in the Milan/Northern Italy area that I should consider as well, that would be great starting points to the high-end bespoke world? I had a second basted fitting, in which some of the issues were accounted for. Moreover, thanks to the well-oiled workings of the Chennai workshop, New York customers who place orders during the first leg of the trunk show (November 16-19), will be able to have their pieces fitted when the brothers pass back through New York between November 29 and December 1, negating a long wait (most tailors wont return to fit clients till spring 2022). Simon's books and product collaborations are available to buy through the Permanent Style shop. Wearing something expressly created for ones body and mind is an intoxicating luxury. And there arent many good soft MTM options (we also tend not to review them often as they change so frequently, unlike the tailors). Whitcomb & Shaftesbury Bespoke 2 Button Sport Coat 48 S. Fabric is soft with a fur appearance. Every aspect of the garment from the fabric to the style is customized and tailored for your unique body. if you have any other suggestions of tailors for morning wear (through word of mouth) I would be super grateful for the input The shoulders are quite soft and natural, although the team can certainly do more roping if requested. Thank you, As a general rule Id want to see the cutter, but in this case Id make an exception, given Bob and everyone else have worked so closely together for a long time. Very nice suit. When writing about the second suit might you include some further detail about the Cutter/Coatmaker and their views on what makes a good silhouette? Every artist has their Read More, What is yachting. Can you recommend me some affordable tailors in london? Trousers are made entirely by hand, with hand-sewn curtained waistbands. Their business moved to Savile Row in 1846, following the death of founder James Poole. Richard, Hi Simon However, they didnt provide much design input during the process, and i really had to manage and push the project along. B.) Wonderful site! I am considering the Classic Bespoke option for my first bespoke commission. Hi Simon. P.S. Hi Sam Predominantly a Savile Row style or do they stray into Neapolitan construction as well? Have you read my post on the margins of bespoke generally? It is not bespoke as with Floris and leads customers to the existing range via a Q and A. I hesitate to say Whitcomb have done something wrong, as my experience and that of others has been so good, but that sounds like the most likely conclusion. Another is they come and go so a review is only useful for so long. The reason I ask is that Im trying to find a sensible mid way point balancing cost/quality (budget range 1.5k to 3k), Yes, it is worth the extra over GB. A bespoke suit is entirely made from scratch, with the pattern being created based on your unique measurements. When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. In terms of house styling, who would you compare W&S to? Whitcomb & Shaftesbury makes hand made bespoke suits and shirts using traditional tailoring techniques Whitcomb & Shaftesbury As they are roughly in the same price range, I consider both of them for my first bespoke suit. Those two are often the best ways to communicate style, I really only wear white, which is why we launched with this. I mean, top quality stuff for about a 1/3 of the price. I wouldnt ask any non-Neapolitan tailor to do Neapolitan to be honest. They have outfitters (not tailors) who measure you, and their cutters/tailors are in Hong Kong. Accepting your assurances that it is navy, I think it looks great and would do well in my eyes for my perception of business which may differ from those in the financial sector, I didnt Im afraid no, so I dont have the cost. Before you raise an eyebrow, keep in mind that some of the best bespoke garments in the world come out of India, and having ordered a Classic Bespoke overcoat, suit and smoking jacket myself, Im very happy to vouch for its impressive quality. Do listen to the tailor when you talk about it as well. Let me know if that doesnt answer your question Thanks for advice. Jennie Adamson et al. This is a proper Savile Row suit. Even though W&S is affordable compared to Savile Row, I would prefer neapolitans which are comparable in price to W&S but in my experience produced a much nicer fitting and much more comfortable jacket than W&S. Thanks for this. Dear Simon, That pocket square fold is on point. This is the process by which my suit was also made. The pleat on the trouser is quite shallow which makes it not functional. Vergallo doesnt get enough attention they remain excellent value. I also found the comments of others instructive and food for thought. Thank you. I would estimate 9cm but if you get a chance to measure it I would be grateful. I have checked them out however note that: Insisting on something still identifiable as W & S, bearing Bob and Johns beautiful fingerprints but of much softer construction, I was reassured with confidence by Suresh. As a far-flung western Canadian from the provinces, Im not at all put off by the cheaper W & S option of having the finishing done in fellow former Commonwealth colony India; on the contrary, especially with their dedication to good training, fair trade, good wages, etc, I find this option not only economically attractive but also ethically admirable. How would you compare W&S to Steven Hitchcock based on style and quality? I really like the concept of this certainly a product with much more soul than your average MTM suit. Yes I would. Id always recommend that you stick to a tailors house style as much as possible. I dont think W&S has any different margins to other bespoke tailors. As far as London-based bespoke tailors go, the house has gained an impressive reputation for quality in recent years, with rave reviews from the likes of Permanent Style. Thank you very much for your assistance. How would you compare this to Grahame Browne given the close pricing? Or perhaps heard anything about his work? Our bespoke suits are made without compromise by the best craftsmen in Savile Row. I was wondering if you knew how prices for Saville Row Bespoke and Classic Bespoke have changed at Whitcomb & Shaftesbury since this article was written in 2016? Im sure youve mentioned it elsewhere but which of the Neapolitan tailors are you thinking of in particular? And even if she were a bespoke cutter, Id still have confidence saying W&C is better value for money. Is that a consequence of your intentions or is it more John McCabes style of cutting? This is a price bracket that most of your readers could stretch to and so we need more of this from yourself . Coat Details Fabric Pattern: Solid. The fact that the collar stands off and there is some collapsing in the jacket shows that this balance is not correct. Im attracted to the Classic Bespoke offering from W&S for a wedding suit but think I favour two button and slightly stronger shoulders. Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear. Was planning to do so with W&S during their next trunk show. The only tailor Ive seen do that passably is Cifonelli and even then its not quite the same. Great article . According to their website the price GBP 1360 is without VAT. From what Ive seen of the Huntsman service its good, but it is expensive for what it is. Most are closer to the 1000 make and finish, but simply charge twice as much. One of the things you commonly say is not to change house style too much as there is a risk it might not turn out as expected, based on cutter experience, etc. Hi Simon. I explicitly did not make any comments about the suit while it was cut, except answers to questions I was asked. Go for a 9/10 ounce worsted if you want it to wear all through the year. I guess this is relevant to the greatest number of people in the context of a bespoke suit, and it would great to know what are the key points that should be thought about (choice of cloth etc.). The Classic Bespoke follows the same fitting process as our Savile Row Bespoke. Apologies if Ive missed it somewhere but what is the lapel width here? ), That means 3-4 visits for the first suit. I ask because our access to Neapolitan tailors in Los Angeles is limited but I wanted something I could wear in summer similar to the way youve been wearing your charcoal G+H linen suit. Therefore, I will not be going back as I see it as a bit of a risk. I will take your advice and go with Whitcomb then. With this in mind, what difference (if any) would there be between a suit cut by a cutter who specialises in a particular house cut, and a cutter who deals with a wider range of styles? What I also find interesting and perhaps would be an interesting point of discussion with a tailor is that even though my right shoulder drops, I dont think my right armhole should be lower. Not necessarily more structured, but cleaner in the chest and different in other style aspects. Full disclosure: I did weigh 6kg more when I ordered the suit than I did at the first fitting. As a more extreme example how does it compare to your C&M and Cifonelli suits: if you say its nearly as good that may change everything!! More on Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, such as John's background at Kilgour, in the first post here As I showed back in 2016 when I had suits made in both, there is no quality difference between the two. Wonderful. When buttoning I believe this creates a line along the right side of the jacket and most importantly pushes the collar up and it doesnt stay flush to my neck. (And which?). Really pleased although I think there might be some mistake I dont have a fitting in a toile. My experience not so good. Keep up the good work! P.S. Plus, get the exclusive Robb Report tote bag FREE. 4,523 followers. 11 St. George Street is a throwback to more elegant times. It looks great. Following your review of W&S I have scheduled an appointment for their upcoming visit to NY. Thats the reason why I considered W&S, but I dont like the drape cut. This is definitely navy rather than blue Photography, light, white balance etc can change colours, particularly blues. Equally, as Im probably going to take the leap, if youd like any feedback from me on it, Id be more than happy to share. HB, In some ways, yes, though the structure etc is different and the value itself even better too. Next, however, I ran the risk despite your seemingly strong opinion against drawing a tailor away from his natural house style, Simon of asking Suresh to make me an even softer, more Neapolitan style sports jacket. I certainly couldnt see it in any of the fittings but its the exact same thing with both tailors. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. As has been mentioned, your tie is stunning, but sadly it doesnt feature in Drakes current line up. The workshop is a cooperative, so all the tailors own part of the company, and we guarantee full salaries for all our staff, rather than paying piece work. Whitcomb also pays for the education of all its employees children and the brothers have established an additional scheme that rehabilitates women who are either victims of trafficking or at high risk. I had suits made in both, in order to compare them. As ever a brief article on this subject would be highly appreciated! Incidentally, did you get a second (or third) pair of pants made and if so, what was the additional cost? Hi Simon Yes, I would recommend them for a first suit. If to compare, which make is most value for money? Purely on craft, yes Id choose someone like Jennie. Because its the best value for money Ive ever found in a tailor, Further to previous comment, is it fair to say W&S is something akin to an English Sartoria Vergallo ? The only thing youd be looking for is a difference in execution and there are some tiny points there. Updated: Dec 14, 2021. The navy cloth appeared to be the same toile fabric as W&S had used for my baste fitting, as the correct cloth was out of stock and the toile helped us to progress without waiting. I wear my suit 12 hours a day but tend to have the jacket hung up most of the time, so really its trousers that are as important to me. I have received and worn the suit, and can highly recommend it. To be worn with knit ties and open neck shirts to dinners and casual events in summer? Would you have any advice for what I should ask for if you dont think their house style fits with that criteria? Still strikes me as cracking value though. I personally think Airforce Blue can look business appropriate in the Summer months, but more for Belgravia than Broadgate perhaps. Yes, Edward is more dramatic and youll find the drape style more comfortable during the day at work too. Really like the balance and proportions of this particular suit, perhaps it would be worthy of a style breakdown sometime? But as I live in Geneva, and Varese would not be such a long drive from here, would Sartoria Vergallo also be a great option for high-end bespoke at relatively good prices? Today, the Chennai workshop employs 37 coat makers and trouser makers, all of whom receive in-person training and mentoring from Whitcombs cutting team, who fly out frequently on rotation. Now, the brand is returning to America for the first time in over two years, as are many British artisans. Looks like ink blue solid from H&S classic worsted? Thanks, and great suggestions. The timeline is very similar to other bespoke offerings usually 4-6 weeks between each stage, often quicker towards the end. Located in the heart of London's Mayfair district, Savile Row is home to some of the world's most prestigious men's fashion designers and tailors. Thank you and have a pleasant weekend. Next Magento currency ins not converting and in all websites still the same Dont start trying to alter lapel shapes or remove a lot of structure youre essentially starting from scratch and you risk the result not being to your liking. By subscribing, I agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. (Living in Paris and only going from time to time to London, difficult to sync with the neapolitan tailors). The biggest danger is when you get to structural things (eg shoulders) or things that arent linear and therefore easy to describe (eg the shape of a lapel). See and interact with all Instagram stories @PermanentStyleLondon. Whilst acknowledging that the intent of any bespoke tailoring is to enhance and flatter the wearer, I would be interested to read more about the tricks of the trade used to mitigate different physical challenges. 192 following. No its certainly worth asking, but do try to be specific in what you would like. Youd wear any existing suits, then gradually swap in the better ones as you buy them. Simon are you familiar with Redmayne 1860s MTM service and, if so, between Redmaynes 1860 Acclaim MTM and W&S classic bespoke, which would be better quality? I have gone for a three piece with extra trousers in the classic bespoke and this makes me feel happy! And hands out of pockets do allow a superior view of cut and style.. nice one. Thank you very much for all your great advice! Desperate to find an occasion to wear it again! I am planning to order my first bespoke suit soon. The word yachting as well as the concept itself came into our vocabulary quite recently. I also liked the jetted pockets (although I thought you only liked them on tuxes). Edge tapes, hems and linings are completely felled by hand. Bravo Simon, you sound extremely pleased with it. Cloth: Holland & Sherry, Classic Worsteds, 12/13oz. Your green linen G&H suit is really close to what I like. These Tailors Are Doing It Anyway. It sounds like it might also be due to the fact that this was your first experience. Id pick between the two on style more than anything else. Thanks for this Simon. Very best. I have a severe drop in my right shoulder and the button is a good 2cm lower than the buttonhole when unbuttoned. No, the style is different in other ways too. The real benefits of bespoke are in the long term, for example when you have gone through it once or twice, and know exactly what you want and what to ask about during the sessions. There is Mori, which Maslow So is trying to do out of China but thats not fully launched yet. Id still call them an English tailor But its hard to say Id say buy whichever of the two you can stretch to. This is great to know. One of the biggest such sites in the world, it receives up to 500,000 page views a month. Just 30 Read More, Savile Row Savile Row is a street located in the center of London, United Kingdom. (Which one imagines is the standard 6-9 weeks. This is slightly out of my budget. Also is it fair to have comparisons with A&S style here? Do you mind me asking what make your glasses are? They will often try to cater to different styles, but without a lot of experience of doing so. Im soon travelling to London, and am interested in a soft shouldered jacket or two. Thats really interesting to hear. Im looking forward to stopping by! Hi Simon, how does this classic bespoke service compare to Savile Row on after-sales servicing? Back in the day, Kilgour French and Stanbury cut with a good bit of drape. Whitcomb Shaftesbury -Bespoke. Coats Read More You described some English suits as cuted with small drape (e.g. He values fit above everything, but as he does all the work himself, it is a very easy relationship. Just what Im looking for. Yes, a small change in lapel width is fine. Interesting article. Their 'classic bespoke' service, which involves cutting the suit in London (by a very experienced Row cutter), and then having it largely made in India (in a workshop run by a Row tailor) promised fantastic value at 1350 + VAT for a suit. The coatmaker, Bob, is also coming on trips that John isnt. How many fittings would you say one need to work in to have a W&S suit made, and could these be spaced out over a year or so? I understand none of the cutters will come on this trip but Bob will be present for the initial consultation and measurement. However, am i expecting too much? Thanks as always, In London, just them and city tailors like Graham Browne. Fit not good. Black mens jeans: how to choose and with what to wear? Also, the drape cut I realised is not much to my liking as I feel it makes me very big. Were lucky that our workshop allows us to turn fittings around for clients relatively quickly while keeping total control of quality, Suresh explains. 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