11F. I'm the poster child for lupron flair. Good luck! In summary, ovarian stimulation is a very complex process. He has two girls from a previous marriage. When you all say protocol what do you mean? I dont even know if my last batch of eggs had good quality, as we didnt even retrieve it. i will try to check back.. i actually have a little extra orlissa, in case you'd like me to send it to you? it helps prevent ovulation - 1/8 tablet or 1/4 tablet, inserted vaginally, overnight (and i use a special silicone plug, AND, /the inner plunger from a tampon applicator/, to push the plug deeper or else it slides out if you need to use the loo, during the night. This seems really high for someone that is not a poor responded, no? Suite 1200
Since TFC opened its doors more than 40 years ago, we have helped our patients deliver 23,000 miracles through IVF, IUI, egg donation, intracytoplasmic sperm injection, and reconstructive fertility surgery. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. That said he did the exact same thing back to back and only got 4 and 1 abnormal blast. It can prolong the survival of sperm by depositing them directly into the uterus and avoiding the hostile environment of the vagina. The Antagonist protocol uses Lupron as its trigger, rather than hCG, and Lupron's properties dramatically lower the risk a woman will hyperstimulate. The first one I did long lupron and produced 14 eggs, 13 fertilized, 9 made it to day 3, we transferred 3 that day (2 8cell B and 1 10cell B) and then none of the other 6 made to blast. We had some other changes too, with DH. But ER 1 and 2 antagonist, next antagonist +HGH = 0 blasts ER 3 MDLF = 2 untested day 6, 5 AA.. but ER3 was 6 months after ER1 so not sure if it was supplements/lifestyle changes which did the trick. So I am 38 and about to start IVF number 2. RE recommended MDL high dose protocol, 600 iu follistim, low Hcg. I wanted to try this one a while back, but my RE wasn't keen. I'm super excited for you, yay!!! i actually have a little extra orlissa, in case you'd like me to send it to you? Treatment history: 31F/29M, 0.9 AMH, 10 FSH, 6-12AFC, mild LPD/dysfolliculogenesis/unexplained. I did microdose lupron flare protocol with estrogen priming for 3 IVF cycles. 1Frostie. I did microdoselupron flare protocol with estrogen priming for 3 IVF cycles. Austin, Texas 78731, 16040 Park Valley Drive Building 1, Ste 201
Not attempted transferring anything yet. And any other recommendations on clinics? Did anyone have success with MDL high dose protocol for DOR and over 40? There seems to be two schools of thought: While the flare protocol does not allow for a Lupron trigger to . Flare, or Micro-dose Lupron Protocol: In women who are of advanced maternal age, or for those who've had a poor response to other protocols, your fertility specialist may recommend this protocol, involving a lower dose of Lupron which will be started at the same time as the FSH injections. Round Two Result 4/30: Harsh BFN
Although the fertilization and clinical pregnancy rates were not different in the groups, the implantation rate was significantly higher in the microdose flare-up group than in the multiple-dose antagonist group (22% vs. 11%). Ugh, this totally blows!!!! me 33/DH 36ttc since 10/2008; d/x: mild MFI, stageII endo~~PAIF/SAIF Welcome~~11 IUIs = 1 m/c (7w4d)IVF#1 January 2012 BFN, FET #1 April 2012 BFNSurprise BFP October 2012 m/c (7w), Surprise BFP April 2013 m/c (6w4d)IVF #2: July 2013, ET 1 embryo 7/18, beta 1 @ 14dp3dt - 757, beta 2 @ 16dp3dt - 1762U/S 1 @ 6w4d = 1 little frogger with HB of 118, U/S 2 @ 7w3d measuring right on track with HB of 160Stick Frogger Stick! The clinic I was with was horribly unorganized, I never saw my doctor, and dealing with insurance was a nightmare which made every, Looking for advice We retrieved 8 eggs and 8 were fertilized. So Im not sure how that changes for you, since you were able to get eggs. Your nurse will phone you with instructions by 5:00PM this day. I feel sort ofdetachedI didn't expect to feel this emotion, and I'm sure it will shift, but.who knows. Round Rock, Texas 78681, 5000 Davis Lane, Ste 100
The lupron over suppresses my ovaries and they don't respond well even to high doses of Bravelle or Follistim or Gonal-f, so I am trying the antagonist protocol next with ganirelix. MENTS I married at 39 and got pregnant naturally a year later, then miscarried. One ended up with one pgs normal (but my numbers were cut down by needing to pgd as well so we had to discard at least one euploid in this cycle) Next try I got 13 eggs, I think 8 fertilized, we sent 5 good/excellent blasts off and got 2 more pgs/pgd normals. I wanted to know for those who have PCOS (i have mild PCOS) which IVF protocol yielded a BFP for you ? Has anybody here had an experience with this protocol and was it successful? Im currently doing vaginal Estrace (twice a day), vaginal viagra (four times a day), 3 estrogen patches all the time, vitamin e, baby aspirin, and I even started estrogen injections twice a wee, I'm having lining issues and wondering I'd anyone else out there has as well and what your solution/protocol was to thicken the lining. Where do we go from here? Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol at Dominion Fertility (8 eggs, 4 . HOORAY. I have only ever done 150 and 225 and responded very well. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. Dont get discouraged. Has anyone used this protocol and had any success? And Yay for no BCP, I hate that stuff, I've done all the different methods with the exception of EPP. Lupron Depot is used in women to treat symptoms of endometriosis (overgrowth of uterine lining outside of the uterus) or uterine fibroids. xb```"V2>c`0p40. [CLC] Can the use of Femara for 5 days with stimulants hurt the egg quality? Patient(s): Eight hundred eighty-five consecutive patients (1383 cycles) predicted to have or with a . And offer a ivf protocol. xref
-High School Sweethearts, about to celebrate our 18th year together. Since then its been a nightmare to thicken my lining. My first stim cycle was Antagonist and we actually did cancel ER. BFN We learned, after mont, Hello This is a community for those who have gotten pregnant after a struggle with infertility. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Hi all, [curious1] lcurtis8, it's a hormone that we produce plentiful as younger adults; as we age it decreases. Hello! Also planning to incorporate HGH and low dose aspirin this go round. In the regular IVF protocol, Lupron and BCP are used for at least 2 weeks before ovarian stimulation. Lap 2/15. fast or irregular breathing. Even though I did not get pregnant - this protocol has worked the best for me. Lupron flare was a winner for me, for sure. Vicodin(20 tabs),plus a refill x2(Did not refill/use) For those women whove had more than one ivf cycle, did you change protocol? Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. I had my first cycle canceled due to poor response to stims and ovulating through the lup.. My next cycle will be with EPP no BCP, but keeping the same Lup. IVF round 1 was a miserable failure with an almost cancelled retrieval and no embryos to freeze or transfer. [Sheri] What is DHEA? High FSH. Long Lupron protocol. Only 1 retrieved, which didnt fertilize. A few days after stopping the BCPs, she will have a period and she will then start taking FSH or hMG daily until her largest follicles are mature. That is the reason why we are doing IVF. The study was also occur on estrogen priming protocol ivf per cycle is very focused on converting to create a newborn? EPP with CCRM has been my best cycle yet in regards to embryo quantity and quality! My first retrieval resulted in no viable embryos. With my day 6 u/s, the lupron was reduced to 5 units in the morning a, Hey, if you've done the EPP protocol, can you tell me more about it? My husband and I started trying in December of 2015, and when coming off of my birth control, I never got my period. During the first few days of Lupron, the ovaries are stimulated by the natural pituitary hormones (the flare . But I am starting my next as soon as my period starts. Stimmed for 12 days and had retrieval on day 14. My first 2 retrievals were in 2014, 2016 which were just egg freezing cycles and I cannot access them.now due to covid. IVF Cycle #5 | Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol | Low AMH 2,095 views Feb 5, 2022 64 Dislike Share Tiana Smith 1.24K subscribers Hello All! G&B born 6/30/14 at 33w3d via emergency c/s. Attempt #2 is going much better. Does anyone have experience with this protocol? I'm almost 36 and have been TTC for 2.5 years. I have had 3 Doctors want to use Lupron in some form. Are you sure you want to block this member? I have a consult with my doctor today. October '13 Started BCP for December IVF. Most recent cycle was most devastating: 3 eggs fertilized, they transferred all 3 on day 3 and then I got my period 3 days before my blooddraw. Good luck for your scan tomorrow! 2TFR'ed. Even though my eggs were older as I was 37 at the time, versus 35 when I started, we transferred 2 and were successful with a singleton. Non left to freeze --> BFN IVF#5 (April/May 2014): Antagonist Estrogen Priming -Cornell Protocol (Clomid+ Menopur+Gonal F + Orgalutran) 0000003240 00000 n
So, yes, you can have better results the second time around and I really hope thats true for you! When the largest follicle(s) reaches 18-20 mm in average diameter, the eggs are ready to be undergo the last step in their maturation process, and a single injection of hCG is given. Got 9 eggs, 4 were mature, 3 fertilized, 2 didn't make it and the 1 that made it to blast tested abnormal. Setting: Anatolia Women and IVF Center. I have an IVF consult in two weeks and although I've got my questions (mostly from the wise women on this board) I'm trying to get more information on 'protocols'. I think so because I was usually stimming with 300 Follistim before, but I'll check. crazy how we have to get creative, huh?? Hello, I have DOR (My AMH was 0.38 and 0.27 in 2016, but somehow it increased to 1.36 in Jan 2017). February 2011 For those who have PCOS which IVF Protocol was successful for you? I don't remember my protocol. Did they give you a plan for your cycle yet? In 2018 after 4 rounds of ivf I had my daughter. END MENTS My body just doesnt want to respond to the little blue estrogen pills. I did microdose Lupron flare protocol for my first cycle back in August. Merchant Services. Anyone done this protocol? I did do both natural start and primed and my response was the same. I hate long stims. We've been trying for 3 years. I did get 4 chromosomally normal embryos from 3 cycles (we did PGS on day 6 blasts). Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol In the regular IVF protocol, Lupron and BCP are used for at least 2 weeks before ovarian stimulation. I am currently going for my 7th retrieval. A couple of things to keep in mind with MDL, I started with a AFC of 7 (pretty average for me) and for the first several days of stimming (5 at least) there were only 7-8 growing and my E2 was super low. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. I'm trying to dig up information about stim doses (since Dr C says I'll still be on a lot of meds?) fainting. NATURAL EFFORTS: 1st pregnancy and miscarriage in Dec/Jan 2016, successfully treated miscarriage with mis, Hi Ladies, He takes my input and works with me. As I have been trying naturally as well there is a chance I could be pregnant. 0000005824 00000 n
The major difference is that, by cutting the dose of Lupron down to one sixth of the routine dose, and by giving it twice daily, the Lupron actually turns the pituitary gland on rather than off, producing major release of FSH. Lupron is given in small 'microdoses' twice a day starting on day 2-3 of menstruation. puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes. 1 single dose LUPRON-at RE office I will access my frozen eggs in.june hopefully. trailer
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But I believed we switched because of not getting eggs. The most commonly prescribed stimulation protocol in the United States uses BCPs, leuprolide acetate (Lupron) to prevent ovulation, gonadotropins such as follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) or human menopausal gonadotropin (hMG) to cause the eggs to develop, human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) to cause the eggs to mature, and progesterone to I have a quick question for the veterans. Transfered a blast and early blast and froze one. My new protocol is Estrogen Priming Antagonist. Countless BFN(s)
I badly want to be a mom. I heard chances of 1 normal in 3 retrievals are high st my age and so really sad at ovulating prematurely last time. Thanks. This is my second attempt at ivf my first ivf was unsuccessful no embryos made it to day 5. Lupron Depot is used in men to treat the symptoms of prostate cancer (but does not treat the cancer itself). IVF#4 (Dec2013/Jan 2014): Microdose flare+Saizen+testosterone 4 eggs retrieved, all mature and fertilized by ICSI, ET of 1 6-cell embryo an 1 8-cell embryo graded 2 and 3. IVF2 (ICSI/AH/ACU): Microdose Lupron Flare
My little one is a success story from MDL! Best of luck! She has already been prescribing me an aggressive protocol (microdose Lu, So a little bit about me. I have DOR (My AMH was 0.38 and 0.27 in 2016, but somehow it increased to 1.36 in Jan 2017). I just finished day 4 of gonal, microdose and letrozole. Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. I was diagnosed with high FSH (16).
It's crazy how so much of it is trial and error. Maybe it is too soon for bloating. He had a vasectomy after his second child. You're on your 4th so you should have a lot of good info guiding your RE in this direction For me, I did 3 IUIs with 6 follies initially, then 4, then only 2, respectively, and on IVF#1 I had only 2 follies so we canceled and just did IUI, all of this BFN, and IVF#2 only had ONE follie which we did the ER w/ICSI and it didn't fertilize. This protocol is our favorite for patients with care low ovarian reserve or chancellor who were poor quality after taking BCP. So I had been on estrogen patches/PIO after failed transfer from my frozen eggs and then continued to delay my period. In order to retrieve the eggs before they ovulate spontaneously, the patient is taken into the operating room and the eggs are removed non-surgically approximately 36 hours following hCG administration. 8 fertilized w/ IC, Im about to do a frozen embryo transfer but I have very thin uterine lining. Hi ladies just looking for any inspiring stories! Devastated! Had two follicles but one disappeared day of egg retrieval. Team Purple. My first retrieval was an antagonist protocol, and we only got one poor quality embryo (3CB). What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. 0000009528 00000 n
Slow growing/No follicles with Lupron Stop protocol? '13 - We will try again with EPP. some people think that a bcp suppresses some women too much and so a epp is used instead. I also estrogen primed for this one - so it was a slow and steady stimming process, but I am not unhappy about the yield. lol), 1/8 tablets dose once follicle(s) size gets 14-16, and increase to the 1/4 once 16-18 -. Listing a study does not mean it has been evaluated by the U.S. Federal Government. 28 years old, first IVF cycle cancelled?! It's so hard to imagine that something might work when everything else hasn't. I tried IVF in may since my follicle count was low I cancelled it. I did 10 days of BCP, then Lupron, repronex and Gonal-F for about 10 days. I'm about to start a ton of supplements my nurse suggested to me. <<7e73b458605e884a9eec5f5e9aeedda8>]>>
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I see a lot of people have taken Lupron. my clinic doesnt do growth hormone which Ive always heard good things about it. Second retrieval was agonist with lupron, and we ended up with two decent quality embryos (3BB, 4BB), one of which became my newborn daughter, who I am currently breastfeeding. But I'll let you know if I respond better! Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. Short protocol for low responders We have discussed GnRH agonists as a suitable treatment for low responders. Because my follicle growth was so dysfunctional during my first round my doctor has decided to try a microdose lupron flare protocol starting with 5 weeks of birth control which ends on Monday. I had blocked tubes and everything else with me and DH was normal. 1. I did my first IVF at 39 got 3 embryos with one pgta normal. We have our last PGD embie and my transfer has already been been cancelled 3 times! EDD 5/11/14, Jack dx at 19w1d with Dandy Walker on 12/16/13, Severe Pre-e /HELLP set in Jack born sleeping at 20w1d on 12/23/13, FET #2 --July 2014 BFP! GL! think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. Our most common protocol utilizes Lupron as a trigger instead of hCG to mature follicles prior to egg collection. Fraternal girls born Dec 2010 2011 Dec-Natural BFP M/C at 8.5 wks 2012 Dec-Natural BFP . I tell myself the poor responder is compared with someone with PCOS and not a "normal" fertile person. numbness or tingling of the hands or feet. Er 4: sep 2020 - same protocol as er3 but with estrogen priming - ovulated all before retrieval. I am 42 and after 1 failed IUI and 1 failed IVF, I am now starting my second round IVF with the lupron flare and ICSI. Create an account or log in to participate. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. Hi! 0000003164 00000 n
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