It may not be a dramatic sign or wonder, but it's still an answer to prayer. Presidents of Case Western Reserve University, President of Case Western Reserve University, "President Snyder expresses gratitude for CWRU community, bids farewell; video reflects on her tenure", "Case Western Reserve's Barbara Snyder's had a successful rebuilding year", "CWRU's Snyder earns no end of accolades", "What's next for Ohio State after Gee's retirement? People casually talk about God helping to find their car keys or help their sportsing team win, which are not miraculous but imply the intervention of the agent and thus fall under the same umbrella. We originally met when we were, she was an exchange student and I was doing my PhD in New Testament at Duke. Somebody we know, actually there were two people we know, who are witnesses of that one. As you begin your hike, set your sights on a new direction. episode: Is there medical evidence for miracles? of the members of the University Athletic Association are part of the AAU. Indianapolis, Indiana. and Duane Miller (healed from irrevocably damaged vocal chords). [] why are they not healed if the context matters and we're defining a miracle as you know divine intervention not just a highly improbable event then how come there's no divine intervention there and if the answer is well god works in mysterious ways who knows well you know that's kind of a hand wave, Elijah: i think also calling a handwave kind of undermines something is imagine you caught a murderer and uh you saw him shoot a guy and he goes well i i haven't shot anyone before in my life um is that what we're trying to show is these are real examples i can't explain the soldier coming home that that makes perfect sense but what i can say is there was a blind lady and she got prayer and her eyes opened up and she had macular degeneration they can verify that before and afterwards and i'm not sure it's rational to call those uh uh just coincidences. Scott Rae: I'd say that's quite a footnote! I don't think they have established a real effect yet, so it's premature to speak about causes. After a year or two of investigation they finally concluded, and we have all of the medical documentation, that no, he had, the way they put it in their letter from the Social Security Administration, "You have received a remarkable return of your visual acuity, therefore, you are no longer qualified for disability." That we all will be ultimately healed if we have trust in Jesus because we'll be with him forever. So sometimes we don't see the outcome. Her blindness, too, had been instantaneously healed. For 15 years she had been going downhill. The point is to first establish that there is some interesting effect there, regardless of the cause, and only after passing that threshold do we get to consider a more in-depth investigation. Read Barbara's Blog for blog posts and speeches from the Presidenton prominent and emerging issues facing research universities and the broader higher education community. But even with miracles, life expectancy is higher here than in Africa. So that, I mean that would almost qual, I mean three hours. Now obviously those numbers, none of us would say that all of those can only be explained as a miracle. Craig Keener: Yes. Thinking about the Snyder "miracle", I do wonder why in these cases there isn't much more extensive medical documentation? The institution that is referenced for the work is Global Medical Research Institute (GMRI) and the documentary about miracles referenced is Send Proof. In my opinion this study represents a larger trend that I have discussed before clinical research going backwards in quality after higher quality studies yield negative results. Thank you so much for having me. But if it hasn't been after so many years people say, "Ah, it might just be temporary.". You've done tremendous work on it that is a huge benefit to the Kingdom, not only with your technical biblical scholarship, but with this incredible stuff you've done on miracles. The answer is simple none. I could just as well say that her brushing her teeth caused the healing, because she was healed in the evening shortly after she brushed her teeth. Now you got to go work! But my wife and I have also been through a series of miscarriages. This goes a long way of establishing (or not) a causal link. Is this case unusual? By counting these as "hits" and ignoring the deaths of starving children because they are "misses" and don't support their narrative is an indictment of the entire mode of thought. I commented about it like. I had to work harder to get stuff from Latin America because a lot of it's in Spanish. life, President Snyder said. We have to have miracles. "It was really the miracle of the resurrection and the historical evidence for that that ended up bringing me to faith many years ago," Strobel told Pure Flix Insider and "The Billy Hallowell Podcast." As Nathan puts it, it's telling believers who doubt "stop those naughty thoughts." For more information about our use of cookies, our collection, use, and disclosure of personal information generally, and any rights you may have to access, delete, or opt out of the sale of your personal information, please view our Privacy Policy. Any legitimate effect should be able to withstand this scrutiny (and more! How is an epistemically responsible thing to do? Her doctors have written about her seemingly impossible medical turn around. And we give Glory to God whenever we get the opportunity to be a part of those, but it's, we don't expect that, that the Kingdom, that we'll have experienced the Kingdom in its fullest now. And it's all very well documented too. Here I look into the papers he references in response. It's the same reason large careful studies aren't done -- they simply don't care enough, and are already believing, so why bother? for her new role. This is incredibly compelling stuff. Facebook gives people the power. 2021 - All rights reserved. It is for these sorts of problems that randomized controlled studies are developed and are necessary to distinguish effect from non-effect. It's not just a few people. I mean not that it was deliberately anti-supernatural, but it was deliberately non-supernatural. administrators, including President Snyder herself. And so when she was healed, the first thing she noticed was her feet were flat on the ground. Both cases are discussed in Strobels video linked above as well. This pretty much summarizes the problems with this study. If you complain that the standards are too high, then you don't belong on the playing field and you don't deserve to be taken seriously. University (CWRU) in July 2007, will join the Association of American Universities (AAU) by the This is the pattern we see of something that is non-existent, and the healings follow this exact same pattern. We don't do this for any medical claims. Certainly, Jesus gave a bright future to Barbara Snyder in 1981. Is it possible that there was MS and something else, in which case looking for a full recovery from MS is misdirected? This time with them pushing her father, disabled father in a wheel barrel and they left a home that they would never see again and ended up basically in the forest, or villages in the forest, abandoned buildings, for the next year and a half. And then the book that tells the story of your relationship to your wife called Impossible Love. randomized controlled studies, well considered controls, etc) to avoid these confounders. Previously, she has served as chair of the board of directors of the American Council on Education, chair of the board of directors at the Business-Higher Education Forum, vice chair of the board of trustees of Internet2, a member of the board of directors of the Greater Cleveland Partnership, a member of the board of directors of Jobs Ohio, a trustee ofUniversity Circle Inc., and a member of the Ohio Business Roundtable. On GMRI's website there is the following request: "Were always looking for new testimonies. Barbara Snyder earned a bachelor's degree in sociology from Ohio State University and a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Chicago. By this point, she was almost blind and . Barbara Snyder is another one that's not in the book. Join Facebook to connect with Barbara Cummiskey Snyder and others you may know. You can get a free, one-month trial here. She deteriorated over a period of many years, several operations, many hospitalizations," Strobel explained. and Ada Thompson Professor of Biblical Studies at Asbury Theological Seminary in Kentucky. The response is, essentially, that I am demanding too much evidence. Join us for this fascinating discussion of miracles today. An immediate thought is how many times was he prayed over and nothing happened? Further, Nathan points out the problem is that Elijah needs to actually tell us some some epistemic story about what it is that puts people who pray in a position to know that God is the cause of the miracle happening. Since these diseases are genetic, it makes it a lot less likely that she had this condition. Scott Rae: Tell me first, one of the books I'd like to talk about first is the book Impossible Love. And she'd also gone blind. After a quick intro, the episode plays in full. This is a very important fact to grasp, so let me repeat it. The way people like the stories highlights their way of thinking and provides a teachable moment about like why don't we trust claims just from the claims, even if it has a peer-reviewed journal article. We have previously pointed out that the kind of coincidences you'd dismiss as bad writing if you saw them in a movie happen all the time in real life. And this is not by any means the most dramatic story I found. So we're talking about something like hundreds of millions of people. The university has retained Spencer Stuart to assist in this search. I confess I haven't made it through all 1000 pages. In 1972, having been blind for over 12 years, the individual reportedly regained her vision instantaneously after receiving proximal-intercessory-prayer (PIP). I had heard the story before from my wife, but it was actually when I interviewed the, my wife's source, that I got the details. aliens, homeopathy). James is right that the evidence on a lot of these cases is really really bad. They're meant to be signs of the Kingdom. We really appreciate your taking the time to come be on the podcast with us. Barbara is a director of KeyCorp and Progressive Corporation. ), but with the best they ever give us (like the cases above), the second you dig a little bit you find that all the evidence kind of vaporizes or there are plausible alternative explanations that take only a minute to come up with. It's not biased to be skeptical. This doesn't affect the doctor reports, but the personal reports. Whining that it's hard is just lame. To learn about us and today's guest, Dr. Craig Keener and to find more episodes, go to biola.edu/thinkbiblically. Here is her story. Further, the world is complex and any given effect can have many different possible causes, especially if we are talking about biological systems. If there's that many cases there should be enough regularity to detect these things statistically which is exactly the tools we've developed in science to do and to rule out other factors. achievements during Snyders tenure include: Association of American Universities (AAU), Maltz Center donors, performers celebrate Phase II, School of Medicine graduate program information tabling event, Summer study abroad with CWRU faculty information session, New study reveals ketamine could be effective treatment for cocaine-use disorders, Get to know members of the National Pan-Hellenic Council at CWRU: Week 3, Begun with a $1 billion goal, it ultimately raised. 5 John Wilkes Booth's Brother and Abe Lincoln's Son . The bias is on the person making the positive claim. The situation was pretty hopelessuntil something quite shocking happened. All I knew was the last letter I got from her said that she didn't know if she was going to live or die. The situation was pretty hopeless until something quite shocking happened. Craig Keener: Yeah, she came on a fiance visa, which unfortunately took a bit longer than it should have because by the time we finally made up our minds to get together 9/11 happened right when we were getting ready to send the materials in. Doesn't seem to be anything other than perhaps theology. A document going through these particular medical statements with citations can be found here. Synder's miraculous healing, which unfolded more than 30 years ago, was apparently so shocking that even her doctors have written about her seemingly impossible medical turn-around. Is it possible that there was MS and something else, in which case looking for a full recovery from MS is misdirected? Here are two examples from my life where I was skeptical of an extraordinary claim, one where it turned out my perspective was correct and the other not. Jonathan McLatchie vs Jonathan Pearce, documentation for the Barbara Snyder case, https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/?s=control&category_name=&submit=Search, this woman was healed of Parkinson's with "Energy Healing". Further, the authors admit, although they do not disclose the data, that previous attempts to document response to the treatment in other populations have failed. Sure. If you make such a claim, and that higher-than-average standard is not met, then you cannot be confident in that claim. President Barbara R. Snyder announced today that she will research universities in the U.S., as well as two in Canada. Which I agree with, at least technically. So that's why Christianity featured that part. episode says, if i'm not mistaken the one that Herbert Benson conducted was that when they were trying to recruit people they were having trouble getting certain participants that all the protestant participants were from the unity school of christianity which actually doesn't believe in miracles and so you know they had a limit it's not the ideal way to conduct a prayer study, if there's a pattern like nine times out of ten where this happens it's in the context of prayer that that should say something again we we need a whole lot of a whole lot of cases to be able to to examine that. candidates for its presidency.. If you took our remedy, and improved, we want to hear from you. I want our listeners to be totally aware, Craig Keener, just the two volume entitled Miracles. The response we get is to say "Well what you have to do is you have to compare explanations and see which one's the best" and it's like "Right! It involves Barbara Snyder and took place nearly 30 years ago. It was from a different Congo so the person who did that doesn't know their geography. In So I guess, what surprised you the most as a result of your study from when you set out to do this to when you got to the end? So these are signs of the Kingdom, their foretaste of the Kingdom, but we're still longing for the day we're gonna see him face to face. I don't understand how it's possible for both those things to be true. Author and evangelist Lee Strobel was once an atheist who served as the legal affairs editor for the Chicago Tribune before embarking on a quest to try and disprove Christianityan effort that ironically led him to embrace faith. Near death experiences are only reported within religions that support dualism. Converted to Pelican theme by Brian Blais. I'm just wondering, is it possible to do it the other way around? Stanford and Johns Hopkins University. Do extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence? "can you address the point and not just resort to this other issue that is actually not really in contention? 2023 Blaze Media LLC. It just really annoys me this is always conflated. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. This last part is the reason we set up replication, controls, and other processes to minimize the effects of the limitations. This is clearly a rare medical case -- but with 7 billion people you'd expect some of these often just by the law of large numbers. "Barbara Snyder was diagnosed at the Mayo Clinic with multiple sclerosis. We're all aware of suffering in the world, but miracles is a happy topic. Barbara was married to the late Robert L. Snyder. So for example, if I just say oh well there was spontaneous remission you could say that's implausible given our medical knowledge but it's going to be very hard to establish that that's actually like impossible, to definitively rule it out and so the question of which is a more plausible explanation and not can you rule it out. Hey, thanks for listening. It also includes the audio recording of Duane Miller as he is being spontaneously healed of his permanent, severe vocal chord damage. And the reason Usually people don't get medical documentation even when it's available. After you lace up your boots, hit the trail. Only 15 percent according to the polling that I did believe that miracles cannot happen today," Strobel said. I've written about this before about UFO claims, that they fall into two categories: There could potentially be a category 3 where the evidence does support the claim, but I have never seen it in any that I have personally investigated, either for UFO claims or for miracle claims. And I think with a little imagination one can probably control for things like spontaneous remission and background effects and even some of the kind of unknown effects by a suitably designed experiment. So where there's cutting edge Evangelism, God does more dramatic things. She's on her deathbed,'" Strobel explained. I wear glasses. The story is of a person who was paralyzed from the waist down due to a car accident and 22 years later they were prayed for and healed. He ended up reading and it led him into a life of scholarship. Meanwhile, her muscles were atrophied. But we also had the medical documentation. its future, DiSanto said. In fact, history is full of bizarre coincidences that get downright creepy . Strobel said that he has long believed that Jesus performed the miracles described in the Gospels. Thu 03 February 2022 And the way we proceed is that we use medical science to eliminate the six and we can't really confirm or disconfirm the last remaining one but because we eliminated all of the alternatives that must be the one right or at least it's reasonable to believe that this is the one -- it's the best explanation. And he said he prays for people here in the U.S., but it doesn't happen. "One day, one of her friends called WMBI, which is the radio station in Chicago run by the Moody Bible Institute, and said, 'Pray for Barbara. #media. Tag: Barbara Snyder healing miracle ms. The Mayo Clinic had diagnosed Barbara with multiple sclerosis. (Read also:Columbine survivors powerful lessons after facing terror). We don't get to choose what our test is. At a minimum, one has to. We only have the stories. Keener doesn't explore alternative hypotheses and how he'd distinguish between them. It was really the miracle of the resurrection and the historical evidence for that that ended up bringing me to faith many years ago, Strobel told Pure Flix Insider and The Billy Hallowell Podcast. But my skepticism didn't go away.. However studies also show about 80% of ER nurses and 64% of ER doctors believe lunar cycles affect patients' mental health, even though the data do not support such an effect. After serving in several leadership positions at Moritz and within the central university, Barbara became OSUs interim executive vice president and provost in 2003 before securing that position on a permanent basis the following year. The study mentioned by Strobel in the video above, and the one I mention in relation to healings of deafness and blindness and how it compares (very favorably) to hypnosis studies, The following is a section from Strobels book that references some of the gold standard scientific studies that show the effectiveness of prayer, which I briefly mentioned in the podcast. A lot of these things were published in Asia. If you are willing to believe the Barbard Snynder case, then you should be willing to believe this woman was healed of Parkinson's with "Energy Healing" or you should believe in the Golden Plates of Joseph Smith (making you a Mormon). Craig Keener: In Christian circles it's been received really, really well. It is a reasonable question to ask -- how much evidence is enough? She is the former president of Case Western Reserve University. 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Sean McDowell, Timothy Pickavance, Scott RaeFebruary 27, 2023, Sean McDowell, Scott RaeFebruary 16, 2023, Sean McDowell, Scott RaeFebruary 09, 2023. She mentions a head injury from her accident not a spinal cord injury and never mentions that she was irreversibly paralyzed below the waist. Scott Rae: I love how you put that, that healing now is a foretaste of the Glory of the Kingdom. Can you give me some examples? One of the first widely publicized studies was by Dr. Randolph Byrd, published in 1988 in the peer-reviewed Southern Medical Journal, she said. I mean it's only a fraction of what's out there, but there was a Pew Forum Study done in, I think, 2006 of Pentecostals and Charismatics in 10 countries that concluded Well if you look at the percentages of Pentecostals and Charismatics who claimed to have witnessed divine healing and then the hard numbers of those in those countries, it comes out to somewhere around 200 million people in those 10 countries alone, who claim to have witnessed are experienced divine healing. No one in medicine evaluates the effectiveness of a treatment from case studies alone, or even primarily due to case studies. Bizarrely, her calves were inflated and her once-atrophied muscles worked again and thats not all. Following her M.S. The trick is you have to dig a lot to get the actual facts of the matter, they don't typically present these to you like "here's the facts, and this is why we think it is a miracle" it's "the guy's intestine regrew" but that's not an established fact at all that's their interpretation of a certain set of facts. I know we, we were really, really praying for him. But because of the asthma he ended up not playing sports with the other kids. But I'm grateful for the, the engagement that's come since then because there has been a lot of good engagement and people have taken it seriously and taken to heart some of the arguments in it. And by teacher time it was 200 pages I decided okay, this needs to be a separate book. One day, one of her friends called WMBI, which is the radio station in Chicago run by the Moody Bible Institute, and said, 'Pray for Barbara. Craig Keener: Yeah. God could choose methods that are not so easily confused with memory biases, measurement errors, and other distortions and it is suspicious that he doesn't operate that way. He wrote to the Social Security Administration saying, "I'm not blind anymore." Scott Rae: Okay. "So, we know that at least 450 Christians began praying for her, because they wrote letters saying, 'We're praying for you.'". A good response to this particular study is by Steven Novella at **Proximal Intercessory Prayer: Lets take the following hypothetical study: The study included 24 subjects who were all treated openly with the intervention in question. Join Facebook to connect with Barbara Snyder and others you may know. What is missing are the controls -- how often does the "treatment" happen and there is no effect, and how often is there an effect but no treatment. perhaps a thickening of the intestine would look like a regrowth? This is why causal connections are so hard to establish, because not only do you have to demonstrate a real effect, you have to somehow distinguish possible causes. She deteriorated over a period of many years, several operations, many hospitalizations," Strobel explained. I mean I tried to get accounts from all sorts of different cultures. Also there is this general trend of naturalism in which you are looked down upon if you believe that the supernatural can occur so there is this whole culture at play where the medical community is working against finding truth". I think no, because theism is vaguely defined. It was a prospective, randomized, double-blinded, controlled study of four hundred subjects. He is, let's just say he is one of the most prolific biblical scholars that I'm aware of and is so productive. These are two red flags which will need some level of caution in establishing the cause of the condition improving. James rightly points out that the most these people ever seem to provide is: The timeline definitely matters, especially if you're claiming a causal relationship. 2021 - All rights reserved. Untrustworthy Our Cultural Knowledge Crisis, [BONUS] The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self. So we understand it's not, it's not saying that somebody has lack of faith. All rights reserved. Craig Keener: Greg Spencer is a case of this. Likewise, Americans are quite prone to believing in the potential occurrence of miracles. I just was trying to write a footnote for my Acts Commentary because one of the arguments against the reliability of Acts, you know, one fifth of Acts or one third of Mark roughly, deal with miracles. How do we know the initial diagnosis was accurate? How would you eliminate the hypothesis that a miracle did in fact happen? Case Western Reserves Then, on Pentecost Sunday, two of Synders friends read her letters from those praying for her. Contains the quotes I read aloud about Barbara Snyder (healed from M.S.) Caleb was very nice in pointing out the documentation for the Barbara Snyder case, and correcting me in its reading. Synder ended up in hospice care with a no-resuscitation order; she was nearly blind, her hands and body were curled and she had a tube in her throat to help her breath as well as a tube in her stomach to ensure proper nourishment. Craig Keener: Well everybody has a love story. Easily testable, and I'd be surprised if this is a real effect once you get past the selection bias and sociological effects, and have good controls including separating number of miracle reports from actual anomalous medical events. From the Send Proof film they admit that they can't publish Bruce Van Natta case because the accurate measurement of the length of intestine needed to verify the result we don't have the technology yet. I mean these were mainstream Evangelical Christians and anyway, some of the critiques, and actually some of the praises from the Christians showed that they hadn't actually read the book either. We all don't get a sign or a wonder. Her feet and fingers were suddenly straight and normal again. A blessing to the rest of the Body of Christ. Craig Keener: It's my privilege. It's here for completeness, even though there isn't much more we can say. This is trying to have your cake and eat it too. We are interested in the truth and are aware of many other factors (e.g. It's not enough to show an effect that's really rare, maybe that's your first motivation, like "oh wow, this is a weird case. I mean I, at the beginning I was expecting to find some reports of different kinds of healings that had already been collected in the booked. But all of us are called to overcome. I mean that would almost qualify as a resurrection. 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